Vinther1991 said:
o_O.Q said:
"I think you misunderstand this sentence. Hitler's conclusion was not that private enterprises was a problem for democracy, but that democracy was a problem for private enterprises, hence he overthrew the democracy, not the private enterprises.
On the contrary he privatised a lot of the public sector, this was in contrast to the politics of the Weimar Republic and the vast majority of other western nations at the time."
privitize : "transfer (a business, industry, or service) from public to private ownership and control"
who owned and controlled the "privatized" businesses in germany?
"This is the opposite of socialism."
it would be if the state did not control the businesses... but the historical fact remains that they did
" But you are not gonna get more control through regulations compared to actually owning the businesses. "
which means what exactly? the business owners had to comply with the dictates of the nazi party or they would be shutdown, most likely exterminated and substituted with more compliant replacements so i'm not really getting your point here
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"who owned and controlled the "privatized" businesses in germany?"
The companies and their owners did. Who also got the profit. The tax rates in Nazi Germany was very low compared to other western nations at the time.
it would be if the state did not control the businesses... but the historical fact remains that they did
Well in theory all governments have control over the countries businesses, even in the US. The question is if they use that control or not, which NSDAP did not. They largely allowed the companies to run their own businesses, they respected the companies and the owners the right to their own property, except if they were jewish.
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all i'm going to do is repost my response to jumpin... if you can't decipher from that what the truth is then as i told him you are beyond help
""Only when it waas absolutely necessary to do so for war efforts did the state take control."
its telling to me that everyone who pushes this narrative uses the exact same article each time, but regardless from your article:
the author is calling branches of government "private entities" here:
"Besides the transfer to the private sector of public ownership in firms, the Nazi government also transferred many public services (some long established, others newly created) to special organizations: either the Nazi party and its affiliates or other allegedly independent organizations which were set up for a specific purpose"
i am calling the nazi party government/state btw in case that wasn't obvious and i don't see how you could consider them anything else in this context
regardless this alone should raise the eyebrow of anyone thinking about this rationally
"On one hand, the intense growth of governmental regulations on markets, which heavily restricted economic freedom, suggests that the rights inherent to private property were destroyed."
the author admits here that the nazis destroyed private property rights... because again as anyone thinking about this rationally understands a business can't be private while being controlled by the state to the extent that they were in nazi germany
“the State in fact divested itself of a great deal of its previous direct participation in industry….But at the same time state control, regulation and interference in the conduct of the economy affairs was enormously extended.”
that there is so much double talk when it comes to this topic should lead people to question things more but alas it does not unfortunately
if this isn't a damning comment i don't know what is
" “I want everyone to keep what he has earned subject to the principle that the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State….The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.”"
that is socialism in a nutshell if you cannot understand that then there really is no helping you"