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Do you really think Sony will include software emulation for the PS5?

Yes, definitely. From PS1 to PS4. 20 31.25%
 
Yes, except PS3 because o... 29 45.31%
 
Maybe. 10 15.63%
 
No, they won't. 5 7.81%
 
Total:64
Machiavellian said:
pxrocks said:

All i need is ps4   Compatibility.even if it's not there i will still gonna buy ps5 first month.

I have no problem with this.  I really do not have time to play a lot of old games I have played already so I really do not care if PS1-3 are included in BC for he PS5.  As to buying the PS5 on day one, I still always hold out until there is a game I really want.  I have all the consoles and usually I will probably purchase them all at some point but only when there is something that I really want.

Ps5 going to be recognised by its own games not ps4-1 games.i just hope ps5 will be more powerful and cheaper like ps4.just don't add unnecessary features to ps5 then it will be expensive and it's going hurt it's mass adoption rate.



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OTBWY said:
Kerotan said:

Really? I think you are giving a free pass to Nintendo but not Sony. You should be partial. 

 

So Nintendo get excused because the format changes? But ps4 is literally not powerful enough to emulate ps3 software because it was a shit show of a design yet Sony don't get a free pass with the ps4? Come on buddy both Nintendo and Sony don't offer bc for the same reason. Because they can't. Switch 2 and ps5 will have no excuses but right now both of them do. I just find it funny the double standards and the witch hunt there is regarding Sony. 

I mean, I just said to you why. It is not a disc based system, so it rules out hardware BC. Software wise, we still need to see dude.. they *just* launched their online nesflix thing and it is relatively new compared to the competition. So we will see. Near the end of its lifecycle, we will talk about it. Having said that, please don't talk about witch hunts and other nonsense, you're the one bringing in Nintendo and Microsoft into this convo while this thread is about Sony. Stop trying to turn it into something else and stop thinking that everything I say is an attack on Sony. All I am saying it that I have my doubts when it comes to Sony offering their legacy content. There is a goldmine waiting there and they are not fully taking advantage of it. And what I said to Twintail is that I think they are looking to see how they can monetize it. Why? Because from what I understand this is about software emulation only. Not hardware based. Furthermore, I have seen Sony being iffy on legacy content before, there was an exec arguing against BC before but then they went ahead with the PS1 classic mini. See how that is inconsistent?

I just said the ps4 couldn't possibly emulate the ps3. High end pc is required and even then results are not perfect. Sony are about to release their 1st legacy console. Nintendo have released quite a few. If anything Nintendo are the iffy ones. They've majorly cashed in on these classic consoles lately and I'd imagine even more are on their way. 



KBG29 said:
Machiavellian said:

Lol, why people put so much faith in something that Sony probably doesn't see as that much of an asset.  What make you believe that Sony even cares to put any free effort into true BC within their next console and cut out PSNow.  It really doesn't make sense from a business standpoint for Sony and the investment in time and money really not there.  PS4 BC is probably the best you will see and anything else will be PSNow.

B/C will actually be a benifit to PS Now. 

Sony needs to get all of its games running on a single architecture, to make PS Now as effecient as possible. They can not be running multiple different server banks, especially some with decades old tech, and expect PS Now to be profitable. So for the best future for PS Now, Sony will need to get everything running on X86 and Radeon. This will streamline the service, and make continued improvements as new X86 and Radeon server chips arrive.

Since all future PlayStations will more than likely use the same X86 and Radeon trch, these emulators will work on them by default. Now this gives Sony multiple new revenue streams.

1. Consumers can pay for PS Now to stream PS1 - PS5 titles to any set top box or smartphone. 

2. Consumers can pay for PS Now, and download their PS1 - PS5 games to any of their PS5 devices.

3. Consumers can buy PS1 - PS5 games directly from the PS Store.

Having B/C does not hurt PS Now, it only makes PS Now a better value. Even in the case that they offer disc based B/C, many people will end up either paying for PS Now, or just re-buying games digitally due to the convenience. Making all old PlayStation content available on X86 and Radeon is good for PS Now, PS5, Sony, and the Consumers.

This is what I am saying.  I highly doubt that Sony is going to add BC for older games into the next PS system.  If anything for older games like PS 1 - 3 will be PSNow and PS4 will be within the next system.



Kerotan said:
OTBWY said:

I mean, I just said to you why. It is not a disc based system, so it rules out hardware BC. Software wise, we still need to see dude.. they *just* launched their online nesflix thing and it is relatively new compared to the competition. So we will see. Near the end of its lifecycle, we will talk about it. Having said that, please don't talk about witch hunts and other nonsense, you're the one bringing in Nintendo and Microsoft into this convo while this thread is about Sony. Stop trying to turn it into something else and stop thinking that everything I say is an attack on Sony. All I am saying it that I have my doubts when it comes to Sony offering their legacy content. There is a goldmine waiting there and they are not fully taking advantage of it. And what I said to Twintail is that I think they are looking to see how they can monetize it. Why? Because from what I understand this is about software emulation only. Not hardware based. Furthermore, I have seen Sony being iffy on legacy content before, there was an exec arguing against BC before but then they went ahead with the PS1 classic mini. See how that is inconsistent?

I just said the ps4 couldn't possibly emulate the ps3. High end pc is required and even then results are not perfect. Sony are about to release their 1st legacy console. Nintendo have released quite a few. If anything Nintendo are the iffy ones. They've majorly cashed in on these classic consoles lately and I'd imagine even more are on their way. 

This is a major facepalm. It is not about money dude, it is about doing a right strategy and a way to monetize it. Course they should make money on it lol.  Besides that, companies releasing mini consoles is not the point. The point is that Sony first had spoken against BC, and now turned around (most likely cause they saw the success of the NES and SNES mini). It isn't hard to figure out mate. Oh and Sony can emulate the ps3. If they make the effort, they can develop the emulation software to run them.

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Kerotan said:
OTBWY said:

I mean, I just said to you why. It is not a disc based system, so it rules out hardware BC. Software wise, we still need to see dude.. they *just* launched their online nesflix thing and it is relatively new compared to the competition. So we will see. Near the end of its lifecycle, we will talk about it. Having said that, please don't talk about witch hunts and other nonsense, you're the one bringing in Nintendo and Microsoft into this convo while this thread is about Sony. Stop trying to turn it into something else and stop thinking that everything I say is an attack on Sony. All I am saying it that I have my doubts when it comes to Sony offering their legacy content. There is a goldmine waiting there and they are not fully taking advantage of it. And what I said to Twintail is that I think they are looking to see how they can monetize it. Why? Because from what I understand this is about software emulation only. Not hardware based. Furthermore, I have seen Sony being iffy on legacy content before, there was an exec arguing against BC before but then they went ahead with the PS1 classic mini. See how that is inconsistent?

I just said the ps4 couldn't possibly emulate the ps3. High end pc is required and even then results are not perfect. Sony are about to release their 1st legacy console. Nintendo have released quite a few. If anything Nintendo are the iffy ones. They've majorly cashed in on these classic consoles lately and I'd imagine even more are on their way. 

No matter what position you're in you are in a rough place. You'd have to give major credit to the strides that Xbox took to push Sony to stuff like PS Now downloads. Or you'd have to give credit to Nintendo for making the retro console market a legitimate business. Doesn't really seem like Sony is ahead of the curve in either way.



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OTBWY said:
Kerotan said:

I just said the ps4 couldn't possibly emulate the ps3. High end pc is required and even then results are not perfect. Sony are about to release their 1st legacy console. Nintendo have released quite a few. If anything Nintendo are the iffy ones. They've majorly cashed in on these classic consoles lately and I'd imagine even more are on their way. 

This is a major facepalm. It is not about money dude, it is about doing a right strategy and a way to monetize it. Course they should make money on it lol.  Besides that, companies releasing mini consoles is not the point. The point is that Sony first had spoken against BC, and now turned around (most likely cause they saw the success of the NES and SNES mini). It isn't hard to figure out mate. Oh and Sony can emulate the ps3. If they make the effort, they can develop the emulation software to run them.

AFAIK, only Jim Ryan "spoken out against BC" and it came off more as downplaying what the XB1 had that the PS4 didn't have.



Aura7541 said:

AFAIK, only Jim Ryan "spoken out against BC" and it came off more as downplaying what the XB1 had that the PS4 didn't have.

And he is kinda' obligated (As is anyone in a similar position) to do that.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Kerotan said:

I just said the ps4 couldn't possibly emulate the ps3. High end pc is required and even then results are not perfect. Sony are about to release their 1st legacy console. Nintendo have released quite a few. If anything Nintendo are the iffy ones. They've majorly cashed in on these classic consoles lately and I'd imagine even more are on their way. 

No matter what position you're in you are in a rough place. You'd have to give major credit to the strides that Xbox took to push Sony to stuff like PS Now downloads. Or you'd have to give credit to Nintendo for making the retro console market a legitimate business. Doesn't really seem like Sony is ahead of the curve in either way.

It's called competition. Sony forced Microsoft to not release an online only console, start supporting indies again, drop kinect, drop the price and allow used games. They all force each other to be better. 



I hope it has backward compability because my ps1 and ps2 are not working anymore



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