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When will an improved switch-hardware be released?

End of 2019, I think so too. 16 25.40%
 
2020! 22 34.92%
 
2021. 11 17.46%
 
Maybe.. (other year or theory) 7 11.11%
 
nintendo will only develo... 4 6.35%
 
see results 3 4.76%
 
Total:63

I think the sooner the better. I’d love to see Nintendo take advantage of this sort of a chipset and break the mould of long term console generations that end in a completely new platform.



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Possibly never, or I mean until Switch 2 at least.

Apart from a handheld only or home console only form factor that allows for less parts and cheaper price. I'm starting to believe Nintendo won't bother.

Last edited by Green098 - on 03 October 2018

Well... Nintendo has been dropping hints along the way:

http://time.com/4661055/nintendo-switch-interview/?iid=sr-link8

Takahashi said:
…“It is Nintendo Switch, so maybe we’ll switch it up!” jokes Takahashi, responding to a question about whether Switch’s life cycle will resemble more the company’s TV consoles (completely new ideas at five-year-plus intervals) or its handhelds (subtler changes every few years). “Certainly, we’ve designed Nintendo Switch in a way that it can be used by consumers in the way that best suits them. I think we may see that people who have bought a Nintendo home console in the past traditionally, they may treat Switch like a home console and buy it and use it for a long period of time.”


“Whereas people who have been traditionally Nintendo handheld gamers, they may buy Nintendo Switch and then for example, if a new version were to come out later, then maybe they would decide to upgrade to that…

...

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180502e.pdf

Kimishima said:

Consumers purchased Nintendo 3DS systems in numbers we expected last fiscal year. It has  an  ample  software  lineup  at  a price point that makes the system affordable especially for  parents looking to buy for their kids . We expect that demand to continue during this fiscal year  as well, so we will continue to sell the product.

Given  that  Nintendo  Switch  is  a  home  gaming  system  that  can  be  taken  on  the  go,  this situation may change if  it  grows  from  being  a  one -per -household  system  to  a  one -per -person  system.

But the price of the Nintendo Switch is not something with which most parents would buy a  system for every one of their children in a short period of time.

Moving forward, we will work to  ascertain  what  kinds  of  play  people  want  at which price points,  and  as  long  as  there  is  such  demand,  we  will  continue  to  sell  the  Nintendo  3DS  system.  I  see  the  product  coexisting  with  Nintendo Switch at this point in time.

Nintendo are squarely focusing on reducing the price of the Nintendo Switch as the avenue to getting the system from one-per-houshold to one-per-person.

And as I said:

trent44 said:

...Nintendo knows that the 3DS will fade as Nintendo Switch grows, and they need to fill that lower price entry point to expand the platform significantly...



...Will Nintendo make Nintendo Switch models with newer and better SOCs?
Probably so, but the performance benefit will be marginal to non existent at best, as the focus will be to reduce cost of the total cost of materials

(i.e. a 7nm SOC would allow them to put a smaller battery, reduce the entire chassis size, and remove the active cooling)...



...Nintendo's focus is it leverage its software library to sell its hardware, and to reduce costs of hardware while addressing a wider audience. Focusing on CPU and GPU power and splitting their user base is not where they will expand and Nintendo knows this...

So will the future revisions of Nintendo Switch come with an X2, or X3, or a custom die shrunk of the X1, or whatever they end up revising the hardware with?

Yes, but the benefit it will offer will be focused on reduce costs of cooling, battery, chassis, etc.

Going for a higher resolution, CPU/GPU clocks, etc. would increase cooling and battery costs, and would limit how much the price could drop.

Even a "premium model" XL SKU would probably focus on extending battery life and reducing the size of the bezel and having a 7 inch 720P screen; a TV only model would probably focus on going ultra low price, etc.



October 2020. That’ll set them up for a new console release in Q3 2023.



If we are talking improved like the "new 3DS" or "DSi" then I would guess 2020.  If we are talking improved like PS4 pro or XB1X, then never.



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Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo always had low price and high price point offer on market, Switch with its price point of $300 is high price offer, 3DS with $200-80 is currently low price offer, Nintendo handhelds always had low price point and thats why they were selling like device per person (for instance family with more kids will much more likly buy several Nintendo handhelds for each kid if price point is low enugh), and when 3DS dies Switch will still have price point that will be above $200 (probably around $250), they will need $150-200 Switch offer when 3DS dies. 

Less parts, less tech, smaller form factor, package...means less costs. Of Course that smaller Switch, smaller factor size, smaller screen, without dock, built in controls instead of detachable Joy Cons and whithout some features from Joy Cons, whithout parts need for playing in docked mode, HDMI cable,  smaller package...all means much less cost. So yeah, I think that all that could cut down cost for around $100 compared to regular Switch. 

Switch Mini/Pocket just for handheld play like real replacement for 3DS price point just make too much sense,  and I think we will see something like maybe even next year.

Naturally I disagree with most of that but fair enough! We'll see what Nintendo does soon enough.

 

zorg1000 said:

Because Nintendo eventually wants Switch to become a one per person system along with attracting more kids, families & budget conscience consumers.

I think $199 + game with occasional sales is plenty good enough for that.

Most likely when PS5 and the next Xbox will release. They will probably try to act like Switch is now a 9th gen console and can compete with the other 9th gen consoles with their new model.



I said end of 2019, though I thought you were talking about the normal revisions to Nintendo's portables. I don't expect a more powerful Switch (outside of maybe just the latest version of its cpu which will maybe give a little better battery life or improve any frame rate issues in current games or whatever). But no there isn't gonna be like a Pro type system. But I do expect end of next year they'll come out with a new revision priced at $300 so they can drop the OG Switch to $250. The revision I'd expect would fill in some of the dead space with a bigger screen, maybe have a little better battery life, and maybe like 128GB disk space...I just realized I really can't think of a way to improve the Switch other that those three things. Switch is pretty close to perfect as is. But no doubt they'll do something to keep a $300 price on the market for premium buyers for another couple of years.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Miyamotoo said:

Because Nintendo always had low price and high price point offer on market, Switch with its price point of $300 is high price offer, 3DS with $200-80 is currently low price offer, Nintendo handhelds always had low price point and thats why they were selling like device per person (for instance family with more kids will much more likly buy several Nintendo handhelds for each kid if price point is low enugh), and when 3DS dies Switch will still have price point that will be above $200 (probably around $250), they will need $150-200 Switch offer when 3DS dies. 

Less parts, less tech, smaller form factor, package...means less costs. Of Course that smaller Switch, smaller factor size, smaller screen, without dock, built in controls instead of detachable Joy Cons and whithout some features from Joy Cons, whithout parts need for playing in docked mode, HDMI cable,  smaller package...all means much less cost. So yeah, I think that all that could cut down cost for around $100 compared to regular Switch. 

Switch Mini/Pocket just for handheld play like real replacement for 3DS price point just make too much sense,  and I think we will see something like maybe even next year.

Naturally I disagree with most of that but fair enough! We'll see what Nintendo does soon enough.

 

zorg1000 said:

Because Nintendo eventually wants Switch to become a one per person system along with attracting more kids, families & budget conscience consumers.

I think $199 + game with occasional sales is plenty good enough for that.

Absolutely, $199 w/game is a great price for a few years but at some point they will do some cost cutting  revisions to get the price as low as possible like they did with 2DS or Wii Mini.



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zorg1000 said:
Absolutely, $199 w/game is a great price for a few years but at some point they will do some cost cutting  revisions to get the price as low as possible like they did with 2DS or Wii Mini.
Mid-cycle like 2DS no way, but at the end of the systems life like Wii Mini I can agree with.