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I don't post very often but when I do it's for articles like this. Spurge, you need to splurge for the good meat if you're going keto. I have some mennonites close to where I live who sell properly raised and fed meat. You have to get a good source like that without all the growth hormones, antibiotics and whatever crap they feed industrial cows. Stay away from fast food. If you don't have that near you I believe trader Joe's has the organic stuff for a reasonable prices, unlike whole foods.

Make sure you eat a lot of veggies as well, not just meat. Avocado is a good substitute for fat if you're getting sick of meat products.



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I've sort of dipped my toes in low carb stuff, flirted a bit with Keto but even that seems a bit too extreme to me, let alone full blown carnivore. But I have heard but diets (well they're not diets so much as "ways of eating") have helped many feel better and shed a lot of poundage. After all, we've evolved for millions of years to eat meats, nuts, berries, some plants, etc. Grains only came into the picture roughly 10k years ago and with the industrial age, this processed/refined junk and trans fats are essentially foreign to our systems.

But yeah even in my couple of months dabbling with low carb I lost 8lbs or so, though I've sort of relapsed back into pizzas, pastas, sweets, and put most of that weight back on rather quick.. Hell, I'm Italian so it's tough. We're freaking bred on carbs lol.

I gotta get this thing back on the rails again. This topic's inspired me.

I doubt I'll ever go carnivore but Keto does seem like the sort of thing I can perhaps work towards getting myself used to in the future and maybe even sustain for 80% of the time. I'm already partially there as I appreciate a good steak, jerky, and cheese is probably like half my diet. Not crazy about veggies, but I can live with broccoli, green beans, cauliflower. Been trying to cut back on things like chips, crackers, and candy, and replace them with nuts, seeds, and berries.



 

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You aren't going into ketosis until day three. Also, those are cravings and you're supposed to be eating HEALTHY meat!



CaptainExplosion said:
FragilE^ said:
Waterfasting is an interesting alternative. Worked wonders for me.

What's your goal with the diet? Without long term goals, its very difficult to get good results from any diet.

Mine is to lose enough to fit into my Mycaruba t-shirt, ride a helicopter again, and get back in my African string chair. ^^

Wait...do you need a certain weight to ride a helicopter?



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Pemalite said:

 

last92 said:
Yup, carb addiction is real. Your body is just asking for carbs. It took me around 1 month to stop the cravings. Now I can look at my family eating sweets and bread and I couldn't care less.

Anyway, you can make the transition easier by paying attention to electrolyte balance and eating veggies. If you want to try the carnivore 0 carb diet, I strongly recommend that you first do 1 month of keto with a lot of healthy veggies. Once your body is used to a very low carb intake, you can go one step further with the carnivore diet. I'm personally quite happy with the keto diet (and I like veggies, no reason to stop eating those).

What veggies are you eating?

As a rule of thumb I avoid any that:
1) Grow underground.
2) Brightly coloured.

As they tend to be more carb heavy than others.

 

Salad, spinach, kale, broccoli and other similar vegetables. In general I stay below 15g of carbs per day.

 

Cerebralbore101 said: 

Pemalite said he is on a no carb diet and bulking, but bulking is completely different than dieting, and I have no clue about the specifics of his regimen. 

Well, typically "no carb bulking" simply requires to stay in a caloric surplus and eating enough protein so that your body is in a positive nitrogen balance. There really isn't anything more than that. You can easily do that without eating carbs, you just need to eat more fats and/or protein. There are entire communities that discuss this topic and help athletes that for some reason don't want to or can't eat carbohydrates.

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AsGryffynn said:
You aren't going into ketosis until day three. Also, those are cravings and you're supposed to be eating HEALTHY meat!

Varies from person to person. - Exercise/Fasting/Amount of carbs you eat can also influence how fast you enter Ketosis as well.

My first time it took a few weeks... And the Keto flu took a few days to get over.
After that the time period to enter ketosis has shortened to just a few days, which is good... Makes drinking/carb loading less painful.

last92 said:

Salad, spinach, kale, broccoli and other similar vegetables. In general I stay below 15g of carbs per day.

Basically depression.
I try and stay under 5g of carbs a day. On a bad day I might hit 10g.



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Pemalite said:
AsGryffynn said:
You aren't going into ketosis until day three. Also, those are cravings and you're supposed to be eating HEALTHY meat!

Varies from person to person. - Exercise/Fasting/Amount of carbs you eat can also influence how fast you enter Ketosis as well.

My first time it took a few weeks... And the Keto flu took a few days to get over.
After that the time period to enter ketosis has shortened to just a few days, which is good... Makes drinking/carb loading less painful.

last92 said:

Salad, spinach, kale, broccoli and other similar vegetables. In general I stay below 15g of carbs per day.

Basically depression.
I try and stay under 5g of carbs a day. On a bad day I might hit 10g.

I was aware it could be up to five days (I went into almost overnight) but three weeks? Wow... and I thought I loved carbs... I don't know, I used to swear by it and to some extent still do. Most of my carbs are grilled veggies and occasionally Japanese food, and I went carb less for almost a year, though it was problematic because almost everything involves sides, so I either had to allow my intake to rise or never eat outside again, which was pretty much social life suicide for me... 



Pemalite said: 

Basically depression.
I try and stay under 5g of carbs a day. On a bad day I might hit 10g.

Well, it's not so bad. I'm not the biggest salad fan, but I really like other vegetables. Especially broccoli and cabbage. You just need to cook them properly.



I follow the Keto diet for 90% during the week days and a bit less in the weekend, but mostly balance that out with exercise. That works fine for me.



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