Rêveur said:
sundin13 said:
Agreed, thats pretty much why I've dropped out of these conversations. There just isn't enough information to say one way or the other what is true definitively. There is some interesting middle ground about what should be done in non-definitive cases but it seems everybody just wants to accuse someone of lying while asserting with 100% confidence that they know whoever they supports is telling the truth (which is BS no matter which side you support). I see no reason to really add to that noise.
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In my opinion, most people who believe that Kavanaugh should be confirmed believe so not because they believe she is lying, but because there just isn't any proof. You say we can't know what the truth is. Knowing that, what should the default course of action be? Drop Kavanaugh (guilty unless proven innocent) or confirm him (innocent unless proven guilty)? There's no in-between or third option. One course of action has to be chosen. I believe EVERYONE if they were in his shoes would like to be treated as innocent. And that's why there's just no valid reason for him to not be confirmed.
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As others have said, this isn't a court of law. He is being lined up for a promotion so the comparison to someone being tried just doesn't work. What we are asking is if we should take the risk that the country is promoting a sexually abusive liar to the top court in the country, or if perhaps another candidate would be better for the country. Basically, I consider it to be a fairly mathematical formula (numbers are hypothetical):
If we a assume a truthful Kavanaugh's suitability for the job is 10, a lying Kavanaugh's suitability is 5 and Trump's second choice is a 9, then if there is greater than a 20% chance that any of these accusations are true or that any of his statements made in court were not true, then Kavanaugh is not the best candidate for the job.
Obviously those numbers are hypothetical, but I think it demonstrates the point (I would argue that Kavanaugh was not the best candidate for this job before the accusations but hey, thats just me).