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No sane person should think vague accusation = proof of guilt either. But you never know in this political climate anymore.

If the Dems get sunk by a red wave, it could be a blessing in one regard. While probably unlikely, there has been an increase in talks about the economy/markets crashing. Now while that may just be another BS story with some political push behind it, if that were to by chance take place, the Dems could probably stay home during the 2020 election and still win.

If the Dems hold no power whatsoever, and the economy/markets crash, the entire blame will be on Trump and they will absolutely drill that into everyone's head non stop. If the Dems have some control, more or less, if the economy/markets crash now, while they will try and blame Trump, he will simply say that things were fine until the Dems got some control and now look at what's happened.

After seeing this, I knew this election was going to be one to watch.

The comparison with a job interview is not a good one. For a start, if you lie in a job interview you don't potentially face perjury charges. Secondly. if you lie in a job interview you don't have to worry about the F.B.I. or a reporter chasing down the truth, and your lie is not being broadcast on national television for anyone with relevant evidence to comment. I think we all infer that Kavanaugh had indeed blacked out, but he couldn’t lie under oath and if he admitted it then the Dems would have said “see, he can't deny the allegations because he's shown that there are time periods he can't remember!” In the circumstances “have you?” is a thin response but maybe the best he could come up with to avoid the question.

Thirdly, in a job interview you don't know that about half the people will want to employ you whatever you say and about half will not want to employ you. Fourthly, in a job interview the only thing on the line is getting the job, not your entire standing in society. Fifthly, if it was a job interview Kavanaugh would have been quietly dropped as soon as the allegations came forward, because prospective employers aren't worried that they could lose their majority and never fill the vacancy at all. Sixthly, if you asked someone who, say, was an alcoholic in recovery about his or her past drinking, that might be a very inappropriate thing to do at a job interview. It would be fair enough to say “how much would you guess you drink in a typical week?” but not to ask about high school drinking.

There's a certain degree of disingenuousness about the Dems arguments. “Why didn't he ask for an F.B.I. investigation?” for example. We know why ... if he had called for one it would have pushed things past the mid-terms and made it less likely that he would be appointed. The F.B.I. investigation was only ever suggested as a means to delay Kavanaugh’s confirmation ... it wasn't intended to exonerate him (and couldn’t have done since its findings weren't public). So he was right to dodge the trap.

Kavanaugh's behaviour at the final session of questions was, unquestionably, bizarre, but I put that down to the fact that he was playacting and not very good at it. He was told to show his human side and it turns out he doesn't really know what that is. He came across as very unlikeable, but I'd be prepared to bet that any eminent judge would be pretty unlikeable: doesn't mean that they're guilty of something.

Basically red sites say this has energized their base which I do not know what that means.  If they are the same people who voted then nothing changes.  The blue sites say this has energized their base, same as above.  Each side is claiming this is making people come out to vote but then again, the same people in red and blue always come to vote.  It's the people who never voted, only voted a few times or independent which is more relevant.  At the end of the day, no one knows if those people will come out until voting time.

I do not see how you came to the conclusion that I said accusation = quilt.  Is this something you are inferring from the text I wrote, if so I I am not sure where you came to that conclusion as I stated I have not clue if he is guilty or not.  Nor did I state this was something I was looking at.

Not sure what your experience is but I happen to work in a highly stressful job.  From my experience, nothing shows the character of a person then how they handle stress.  I found his character lacking, pretty much my opinion just like you believe he was beyond reproach because he was being attacked.  Also, who said I was a Dem, I am neither Dem nor Republican but I also notice that getting that label out makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside.  It's always funny how people show their side just because someone doesn't approve of someone within a particular party.  It's as if you have this hive mentality that if you dislike the President you must be a Dem or liberal etc.  You also are another person who only think based on what you feel the media will do.  

As for partisanship, I really do not care what he is.  It really does not matter what the Dems argued over if that was the case because at the end of the day, what could they do about it.  Would it have changed one Republican vote and once he is confirmed will people even remember his confirmation when he makes decisions.  He is there for life and for Republican base, that is all that matter.  We won, Dems lost.  People memory on such things are thin and fickle.  

1) I never said you said that. If you read my reply, it was about you attemtping to normalize or downplay the behavior with lines like “just another day in politics” or “nothing new, nothing different”. My contention is that while both sides may have behaved as they should (the one in power trying to do something for their benefit, the one against them trying to keep them from doing so), the Dems (for me) crossed the line.

2) I never accused you of being a Dem. I said that it was a common talking point for the Dems, because it is (it would come to no suprise that non-dems would buy into said talking point, however. The same way that I’m actually more center-left than I am a conservative but I pretty much disagree with the left’s position and pretty much look like I’m buying into the the repubs talking point in this specific matter). And I never said he was beyond reproach. Jeez, what is with all this strawmanning?

Being able to handle extreme stress is a good quality for a job sure. But: 1) This is not the type of stress he will be facing in his job (yes, there are types and levels of stress) as he ppl will NOT be attempting to destroy his life/career/rep/family on a daily basis. 2) Being able to show humanity is also a type of character (tho I will acknowledge that the whole outburst may well have been pretty much a failed attempt to show humanity or gain sympathy) and 3) His ability to handle this kind of stress has very little bearing on how he’ll do his job. Being fit would be a great quality for any employee but I’m not going to find someone being obese as a disqualifying quality when considering someone for an encoding position. Again, the logic is flimsy and doesn’t really hold up (of course, it is your opinion and you are free to have it).

3) Like I said, for this specific instance, had the Dems not tried to pull what they did, I would have not cared at all. It was a bad call and it crossed lines that I feel NO ONE should be comfortable with. But they did. So here we are.

And so it begins...

Dems/left/media wants to add Supreme Court Justices overall, or to impeach Kav.

Please don't ask me to watch videos whose titles are lies.  I didn't see any laugh directed at Clinton. 

As for what McConnell said, just because the Republicans take their cues nowadays from extremist bloggers, radio talk show hosts, etc., doesn't mean the Democrats are following suit.  Let me know if someone in Congress proposes that, but until then McConnell—and you—are just stretching "a human being in the USA has this idea" to mean "the Democratic Party plans to do this".  I mean, shit, if they were going to pack the court there wouldn't even be a need to impeach Kavanaugh. 

TYT talking about it and FOX reporting it. They may do either or try both. McConnell smirks in the video which for him is about as close to a laugh as you get.