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Should Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS Nomination Continue?

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Should Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS Nomination Continue?

Yes 53 47.32%
 
No 41 36.61%
 
Trump should pick a new canidate 18 16.07%
 
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Rab said:

Due to the importance of the role this guy is expected to perform for many years he needs to be put through the ringer, FBI needs more than a week if they ask for it, the Republicans have delayed having anyone in that position for so long now they want to rush it, that BS needs to stop

What are you talking about when you say the Reps have delayed?  The position that was left open by the death of Scalia was already filled by Gorsuch.  This is a new opening left by the retirement of Kennedy.  This one is being delayed by the Dems, hoping that they can keep it open til after midterms, which they think they are going to win most.  Then, they will delay it being filled til 2020, hoping they can win the presidency.

As PwerlvlArmy said, this will just be another background check, which he has passed 6 already, without any of this being brought up.  Another reason her story is fishy.  But more importantly, yes, this circus just needs to stop.



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Yes and he should be confirmed.

Ford's tone of voice and mannerisms didn't change at all after giving her statement about what exactly happened, in which she pouted a bit, which is to be expected. Nobody acts like that, for that long, based on their claim and feelings, unless they've been coached to do so. The fact that she's where she was, and in the position she was, she was way, way to perfect in terms of her politically correct presentation. She constantly was looking to her council for direction. She didn't follow the typical procedure for an assault charge and admitted it was because her council told her this lawyer and hearing thing was the proper option. She points out how smart she is in terms of why she knows how memory works and why she can and can't remember things, yet she can't figure out the proper procedure for coming forward with an assault claim? She lied about the fact that she can't or is scared to fly because she said she recently flew for a funeral and fly's all the time for her hobbies. She admitted this situation was supposed to be kept private and didn't approve it being leaked. The only person who could have leaked it, was who the letter was sent to, Democrat Feinstein, who said she didn't leak it, and said her people didn't leak it, and when asked if she had ever asked her staff if they did, her answer was, "I just did", but was then immediately reminded that she did ask one other person earlier.

Kav points out Fords witnesses signed off that they don't believe he did it. If it's ever found they were lying, they face prison. Kav was also asked, to personally ask for an FBI investigation on the spot, since he worked in the white house and with the FBI in the past. He then uses that to point out this gave him the knowledge to know that the process the FBI would take wouldn't be much different than what was already taking place, and that at best it would lead to the senate making the decision anyway. He was then hounded to ask for that FBI investigation over and over which was useless because he wasn't going to, because it would be useless as he already explained. Kav made it clear earlier and after, if the committee wanted an FBI investigation that he would happily accept it, and yet that senator was doing everything he could to try and put the burden on Kav, and it's not his to bear.
Lastly, Kav's testimony reminded me a lot of my father. He's also a fairly centered Conservative. I only ever saw my old man get what I would call angry a handful of times in my life, and every time it was similar to how Kav presented himself. After being so calm, cool, and collected, for so long, if you finally somehow managed to cross the line, everything would come out all at once. Anger, passion, sadness, disgust, you name it, it was all there, and it was a sight to see. A really scary one, because you knew he meant business and there was no weaseling your way out. You were going to learn, even if it had to be the hard way. Kav however kept his composure and held back the anger extremely well considering he had to, based on his situation, but that folks is just what happens when someone, somehow, pushes a righties personal and moral boundaries way too far. Kav didn't cross the line, the political circus did. It didn't prove Kav is a loose cannon, it's proof he's dedicated, has strong morals, and is going to make some great decisions going forward.



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thismeintiel said:
Rab said:

Due to the importance of the role this guy is expected to perform for many years he needs to be put through the ringer, FBI needs more than a week if they ask for it, the Republicans have delayed having anyone in that position for so long now they want to rush it, that BS needs to stop

What are you talking about when you say the Reps have delayed?  The position that was left open by the death of Scalia was already filled by Gorsuch.  This is a new opening left by the retirement of Kennedy.  This one is being delayed by the Dems, hoping that they can keep it open til after midterms, which they think they are going to win most.  Then, they will delay it being filled til 2020, hoping they can win the presidency.

As PwerlvlArmy said, this will just be another background check, which he has passed 6 already, without any of this being brought up.  Another reason her story is fishy.  But more importantly, yes, this circus just needs to stop.

The Republicans have blocked previous nominees, they all do it, the vetting did not include these allegations from 4 women, but by just allowing this investigation only one week is a slap in the face to how important this position is, the Citizens need to have the best people working for them



Rab said:
thismeintiel said:

What are you talking about when you say the Reps have delayed?  The position that was left open by the death of Scalia was already filled by Gorsuch.  This is a new opening left by the retirement of Kennedy.  This one is being delayed by the Dems, hoping that they can keep it open til after midterms, which they think they are going to win most.  Then, they will delay it being filled til 2020, hoping they can win the presidency.

As PwerlvlArmy said, this will just be another background check, which he has passed 6 already, without any of this being brought up.  Another reason her story is fishy.  But more importantly, yes, this circus just needs to stop.

The Republicans have blocked previous nominees, they all do it, the vetting did not include these allegations from 4 women, but by just allowing this investigation only one week is a slap in the face to how important this position is, the Citizens need to have the best people working for them

Actually it does. because if any of those incidents ever took place, they would've shown up in the previous SIX background checks, they didn't.  FBI just doesn't check your parking tickets and that's it, they do a full investigation of your entire history,interactions and everything. That's how the process is done for every single person on the supreme court, left or right leaning alike. 6 checks, this was never found. Its all bogus that's why. 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Rab said:

The Republicans have blocked previous nominees, they all do it, the vetting did not include these allegations from 4 women, but by just allowing this investigation only one week is a slap in the face to how important this position is, the Citizens need to have the best people working for them

Actually it does. because if any of those incidents ever took place, they would've shown up in the previous SIX background checks, they didn't.  FBI just doesn't check your parking tickets and that's it, they do a full investigation of your entire history,interactions and everything. That's how the process is done for every single person on the supreme court, left or right leaning alike. 6 checks, this was never found. Its all bogus that's why. 

How bizarre, so the FBI knew of those 4 womens allegations and discounted them 6 times?



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Rab said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Actually it does. because if any of those incidents ever took place, they would've shown up in the previous SIX background checks, they didn't.  FBI just doesn't check your parking tickets and that's it, they do a full investigation of your entire history,interactions and everything. That's how the process is done for every single person on the supreme court, left or right leaning alike. 6 checks, this was never found. Its all bogus that's why. 

How bizarre, so the FBI knew of those 4 womens allegations and discounted them 6 times?

No.  These women's allegations were only thrown out last minute as a stalling tactic.  However, they did a thorough background check of the people he knew from back then.  I'm sure if he was a serial rapist, that would have been found out.  Also, serial rapist don't just stop because they graduate high school. 

It's the exact same thing they pulled on Clarence Thomas.  Fortunately, I don't think it will work this time, either.



thismeintiel said:
Rab said:

How bizarre, so the FBI knew of those 4 womens allegations and discounted them 6 times?

No.  These women's allegations were only thrown out last minute as a stalling tactic.  However, they did a thorough background check of the people he knew from back then.  I'm sure if he was a serial rapist, that would have been found out.  Also, serial rapist don't just stop because they graduate high school. 

It's the exact same thing they pulled on Clarence Thomas.  Fortunately, I don't think it will work this time, either.

Exactly this ^

And the Thomas speech is still one of the best ever too.



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She is way to credible, he was giving false statements, and when you look into what Mark Judge describes in his book, and match it with the names Ford provided and what it says in Kavanaughs calendar, that party happened without a shadow of a doubt. Whether or not he committed the attempted tape is another matter but he is to emotional and inconsistent do even be considered for on of the most important jobs in the country.



Rab said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

Actually it does. because if any of those incidents ever took place, they would've shown up in the previous SIX background checks, they didn't.  FBI just doesn't check your parking tickets and that's it, they do a full investigation of your entire history,interactions and everything. That's how the process is done for every single person on the supreme court, left or right leaning alike. 6 checks, this was never found. Its all bogus that's why. 

How bizarre, so the FBI knew of those 4 womens allegations and discounted them 6 times?

Hey dude, don't listen to the other BOOFED up comments in here.

In a background check, FBI agents focus on the professional lives of the person. This includes interviews of a minimum of 30 people with whom the nominee worked with.

Now in this new background check, the FBI can follow several new leads. They can interview Mark Judge, Leland Keyser and P.J. Smyth, high school friends of either Dr. Blasey or Judge Kavanaugh etc.

Can the FBI finish within a week? It's possible. EX: FBI agents examined domestic abuse allegations against Rob Porter, the WH staff secretary for Trump. The investigation took a few days. Long story short, he resigned.



There is nothing there. Innocent until proven guilty, and there is no evidence. Just get the vote over with, no investigation is going to prove anything at this point. I think the democrats reasons for doing all of this is really disturbing and i hope the voters punish them for it in November



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