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Should Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS Nomination Continue?

Yes 53 47.32%
 
No 41 36.61%
 
Trump should pick a new canidate 18 16.07%
 
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OhNoYouDont said:
Mr Puggsly said:

And this is why we try to be careful when selecting a jury. The masses ignore the evidence, which is essentially nothing and story full of holes.

This is absolutely a scheme by the dems. The timing alone indicates that. Kavanaugh could never be found guilty based on stories as well, too much reasonable doubt.

Ever been to traffic court? Officer shows up, testifies against you. Maybe he has no other evidence than his word that you ran through that stop sign.

9 times out of 10 the cop wouldn't be able to pick you out of a line-up the day after the infraction but he has your name as the registered owner of the vehicle.

As to the scheme argument. Where is the evidence you so demanded from Ford while supplying none yourself?

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the defendant. Innocent until proven guilty. If she did about to get rape (I have doubts), I won't fault her on that, but I will fault her for not going to the authorities right away because now we don't have any concrete evidence or proof. Also, we are in denial if we pretend there isn't a lot of holes in her story.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 04 October 2018

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Snoopy said:
OhNoYouDont said:

Ever been to traffic court? Officer shows up, testifies against you. Maybe he has no other evidence than his word that you ran through that stop sign.

9 times out of 10 the cop wouldn't be able to pick you out of a line-up the day after the infraction but he has your name as the registered owner of the vehicle.

As to the scheme argument. Where is the evidence you so demanded from Ford while supplying none yourself?

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the defendant. Innocent until proven guilty. If she did get rape (I have doubts), I won't fault her on that, but I will fault her for not going to the authorities right away because now we don't have any concrete evidence or proof. Also, we are in denial if we pretend there isn't a lot of holes in her story.

Have you paid any attention to this whatsoever? She wasn't raped. In her mind, he attempted to rape her but what he accomplished was limited to groping and attempting to remove her clothes e.g. sexual assault.

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept. This is not a trial. There is no judge (besides Kavanaugh himself), there is no jury. This is you and me in a neighborhood with Kavanaugh as our neighbor and Dr. Ford as our neighbor and we're trying to decide if we want Kavanaugh to continue living with us.

There aren't any holes that are materially relevant to the assault. Does she know who did it? 100% Can she describe the events? Yes. Does she recall who was in the room at the time? Yes. Focusing on what she does not remember rather than what she does is really quite odd. The things she remembers are clear as day, the other items are irrelevant to her.

Still waiting for you to present evidence in your democratic scheme conspiracy. I noticed you did not offer anything at all.



OhNoYouDont said:
Snoopy said:

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the defendant. Innocent until proven guilty. If she did get rape (I have doubts), I won't fault her on that, but I will fault her for not going to the authorities right away because now we don't have any concrete evidence or proof. Also, we are in denial if we pretend there isn't a lot of holes in her story.

Have you paid any attention to this whatsoever? She wasn't raped. In her mind, he attempted to rape her but what he accomplished was limited to groping and attempting to remove her clothes e.g. sexual assault.

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept. This is not a trial. There is no judge (besides Kavanaugh himself), there is no jury. This is you and me in a neighborhood with Kavanaugh as our neighbor and Dr. Ford as our neighbor and we're trying to decide if we want Kavanaugh to continue living with us.

There aren't any holes that are materially relevant to the assault. Does she know who did it? 100% Can she describe the events? Yes. Does she recall who was in the room at the time? Yes. Focusing on what she does not remember rather than what she does is really quite odd. The things she remembers are clear as day, the other items are irrelevant to her.

Still waiting for you to present evidence in your democratic scheme conspiracy. I noticed you did not offer anything at all.

Sorry, I forgot the "about" part (fixed it), but innocent until proven guilty isn't just a legal concept, but common sense. If I claim someone is a murderer without proof why should anyone believe me? She should've still went to the authorities right away so they can get proof or evidence of some kind. She didn't and just so happened to say something 35 years later when it is convenient for Democrats.

Here is a video showing some holes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7TgtlY17c

What Ford remembers:

-The stairwell

-The laughter

-Brett Kavanaugh

 

What she doesn't remember:

-When it happened

-Where it happened

How she got there

-How she got home

-Who was there

-Conversations she had even as recently as 3 months ago

This isn't even getting to the flying part lol.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 04 October 2018

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thismeintiel said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Voting happening this week. Hype.

Yep. And we're getting slight hints that those swing votes may be going for Kavanaugh. Personally, I hope it is 50-50, so Pence can vote Yea and do a mic drop. 

If true, you are representing exactly what I hate about our deteriorating political climate (hatred and/or tribalism eclipsing policy). 
If false, you are representing exactly what I hate about our deteriorating social climate (trolls). 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
The rage that will ensue saturday is going be pretty silly. Not here, people on these forums are actually sane. But the people that aren't satisfied no matter what happens saturday are going to make fools of themselves.

And I for one, can't wait to see some epic, public meltdowns.  What a fun weekend this will be.  Party on.



A Republican Senator is not coming on Saturday because his daughter is getting married.



jason1637 said:
A Republican Senator is not coming on Saturday because his daughter is getting married.

Absentee ballot?



Nighthawk117 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
The rage that will ensue saturday is going be pretty silly. Not here, people on these forums are actually sane. But the people that aren't satisfied no matter what happens saturday are going to make fools of themselves.

And I for one, can't wait to see some epic, public meltdowns.  What a fun weekend this will be.  Party on.

Right? i gotta go buy some popcorn,maybe bring a few sodas



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Nighthawk117 said:

And I for one, can't wait to see some epic, public meltdowns.  What a fun weekend this will be.  Party on.

Right? i gotta go buy some popcorn,maybe bring a few sodas

Don't forget some firecrackers and some beers, I hear they complement each other.  At least they will scare off the lunatics.