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Should Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS Nomination Continue?

Yes 53 47.32%
 
No 41 36.61%
 
Trump should pick a new canidate 18 16.07%
 
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CaptainExplosion said:
thismeintiel said:
How can Trump mock a victim when there aren't any?

Claiming there aren't any victims is just as bad as mocking them. It's not their fault the "president" is a predator who appoints rapists.

Nope.  Just shows I have actual principles, instead of just playing politics.



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thismeintiel said:
How can Trump mock a victim when there aren't any?

1.) He was mocking the absurdity of the Left believing such a flimsy story, obviously just to oppose a political enemy, not mocking her as a person.
2.) There are no victims here. Yet. They are accusers. Until it is proven that any of these things occurred, the use of the word victim is disingenuous and is just used as a political tactic to try and sway public opinion.

This was the same guy who already said that Dr. Ford's testimony was credible. Flip flop, flip flop.

This isn't a left/right issue either, like the insane folks who think this is all some elaborate scheme by the democratic party.

45% of Americans believe Ford

33% of Americans believe Kavanaugh

The word victim isn't at all disingenuous unless you think Dr. Ford committed perjury. It's disingenuous to refer to Kavanaugh as her assailant rather than *alleged* assailant though.



Wyrdness said:
Kalkano said:

Is there a point to this picture...?

Not really the picture for some reason some how symbolises how this thread is turning out.

I though it was great moment the photographer captured there. Lots of good "looks on faces" The blonde woman frowning and grimacing was my favorite.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

OhNoYouDont said:
thismeintiel said:
How can Trump mock a victim when there aren't any?

1.) He was mocking the absurdity of the Left believing such a flimsy story, obviously just to oppose a political enemy, not mocking her as a person.
2.) There are no victims here. Yet. They are accusers. Until it is proven that any of these things occurred, the use of the word victim is disingenuous and is just used as a political tactic to try and sway public opinion.

This was the same guy who already said that Dr. Ford's testimony was credible. Flip flop, flip flop.

This isn't a left/right issue either, like the insane folks who think this is all some elaborate scheme by the democratic party.

45% of Americans believe Ford

33% of Americans believe Kavanaugh

The word victim isn't at all disingenuous unless you think Dr. Ford committed perjury. It's disingenuous to refer to Kavanaugh as her assailant rather than *alleged* assailant though.

And this is why we try to be careful when selecting a jury. The masses ignore the evidence, which is essentially nothing and story full of holes.

This is absolutely a scheme by the dems. The timing alone indicates that. Kavanaugh could never be found guilty based on stories as well, too much reasonable doubt.



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thismeintiel said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Claiming there aren't any victims is just as bad as mocking them. It's not their fault the "president" is a predator who appoints rapists.

Nope.  Just shows I have actual principles, instead of just playing politics.

Your principles being to assume five people are all lying/committing perjury just to make the president sad. What moral fiber!



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Right, I've seen the point of her fear of flying being thrown around in trying to discredit her.
First, obviously her fear of flying as zero bearing on her testimony, but it's still a very weird point to focus on. Do you really not know how stress works?

"How can she be afraid of flying here, but when going on holiday??"
Well, a person may find a situation to be stressful in general, but can bear it if the end result is going to be beneficial to them.
This theory is known as "affect heuristic" and in pretty much means that in our mind "risk" and "benefit" are inversely related.

I've actually experienced it first hand rather recently. This summer me and my girlfriend took a plane to go and meet her parents. She generally finds planes to be stressful.
On the outbound flight she was stressed to no end, gripped my arm through almost the entire thing and cried at several points.
On the return trip she was ok; still gripped my arm a little during turbulence but that's about it.


It's clear then that Dr. Ford could very well find a plane trip to hearing about her sexual assault a little more stressful than a plane ticket to a holiday resort.
It's really not that hard.



Not enough evidence to be found guilty of a crime is not the standard a senator uses when deciding if someone should be on the Supreme Court nor should it be. Throwing someone in jail should have an extremely high standard and it does for good reason. Taking someone money have a slightly less high standard (when you sue someone the standard is the Preponderance of the Evidence, a lower standard then guilty beyond a reasonable doubt). For getting on the Supreme Court there another standard, it is up to every senator whether they personally comfortable having that person sit on the supreme court. If the people of their state don’t like there judgment then they should of trusted there vote with someone else when they elected them.

If I was on a court I would find him not guilty unless there some hard evidence that came up.

Base on my current knowledge I would rule in his favor that there not enough evidence to sue him.

If I was a senator base on the testimony I heard, I think there a greater than 50% chance he guilty and that would be enough not to vote for him to be on Supreme Court. It not like he not going to be able to continue living a comfortable life even if he not a Supreme Court justice.



Just came here to say that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

Also it's funny how people talk about politics more then they talk about games, on a game sales website.



jason1637 said:

If you're not aware whats going on a few months ago Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh to the supremem court. The senate has had hearing throughout this and last week and soon there will be a vote to decide if he becomes a supremem court justice. But a women named Christen Ford accused him of raping her when they were 17 years old (36 years ago). Two other women have come foward also accusing Kavanaugh of rape. A lot of people have been saying that because of these allegation the vote should be delayed. Those defending Kavanaugh have said that that no solid evidence have been put foward and that it would be wrong to not go foward with the confirmation because there is a pssibility that he did not do it. Some have even claimed that this is a setup by the Democrats because they had recieved word of the accusation over twenty days ago and did not act on it til weeks later.

So Trump recently ordered the FBI to investigate these accusation but instead of waiting for the investigation to happen Mitch McConnel is moving foward with the nomination.

Do you think the nomination should be postponed or should it continue?

I just find really suspicious that just now she is reporting the rape, instead of doing it 36 years ago.  Why now?? maybe because he is nominated as supremem, the "anti Trump people with power" just want to stop this from happening.

Also, even in the extreme case that the rape indeed occur, you can not prove it actually occurred 36 years after the event happened.

This is just basically a case that "I will frame you with rape" so that your image is tarnished, and since it was soooooo long ago it may or it may not be true; so the woman cant be considered "liar" by public opinion.

Having said this; the nomination must continue.



Snoopy said:
Should continue. Sorry women, but you're not going to ruin someone's life without proof.

I agree.