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DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

PS3 is around 85m same like X360, and PSP actually sold 82m.

Well the point still stands on the high total sales.

My point was just that your sales numbers were not accurate.



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Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Well the point still stands on the high total sales.

My point was just that your sales numbers were not accurate.

We only have official numbers for total Playstation consoles sold (525.3M), the PS1 (102.49) and PS4 (81.2).  Your numbers are no more accurate than his.



When you were the best before the you fall off, its easy to get back on the path to what made you great, easy transition from the PS3 to PS4.



OTBWY said:
To research who the actual king of video games is, try this experiment.

Hold up portraits of Mario, Kratos or MC. Ask about 1000 random people in the street who they recognize.

Fuck that. hold up pictures of Bubsy, Knack and Pepsiman!



taus90 said:
RJTM1991 said:
Xbox played a big part in the PS4's success. Between the ridiculous restrictions, lack of top-tier exclusives, and condescending attitudes of their PR team, they practically handed Sony the win this gen.

Microsoft didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they cut their own fucking legs off.

You are disregarding the power of Playstation as a brand,  outside of USA, Xbox have always been seen as an inferior brand. It was because of the name playstation that ps3 survived the same mistake what xbox one did and still  manage to sell the same amount of console as the most popular Xbox console in less time on the market. and if you think it was because of the launch blunders of Xbox one that made PS4 popular, I wouldn't disagree but thats not entirely true.

I dont think anyone would disagree when I say that at the end of 360 life cycle it felt like MS had abandoned their user base in terms of exclusive, and on the other hand in terms of exclusive Sony was on full song, and was flexing its First party muscle on PS3 even after the release of PS4. So IMO irrespective of MS PR blunder, i think what made PS4 more popular was the prospect of sony ability to pump out quality games at regular intervals and having quality First Party Developers. 

P.S.- Ohh not to mention, I think more than MS PR mess i think the biggest blow to Xbox brand was when Bungie appeared on PS4 reveal event and the destiny deal.

Playstation has always been a supermassive brand, but when it came to popularity last gen, the 360 had the PS3 beat.

In my opinion, the scales only tipped when the 360's casual audience jumped ship to the PS4.



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OTBWY said:
To research who the actual king of video games is, try this experiment.

Hold up portraits of Mario, Kratos or MC. Ask about 1000 random people in the street who they recognize.

Thats not very impressive considering nintendo has been milking the same 10 characters for over 20 years. Imagine if Sony started making 3-5 Kratos games and spinoffs every generation, what would happen in 20 years? Anyways all of Nintendos characters are kid friendly so they can make tons of toys and other merchandise, so of course more people will know of the characters. Yet this means nothing to the king of video games title, now if it was the king of video games merchandise or king of video game toys or maybe king of reusing IPs, then I would agree. Just did I quick search and since 1981 and there are around 300 video games featuring the character MARIO.



PS1 started it all and even though PS3 sold bad, for a PS console, it had the best games last gen. What a ride it has been.



omarct said:
OTBWY said:
To research who the actual king of video games is, try this experiment.

Hold up portraits of Mario, Kratos or MC. Ask about 1000 random people in the street who they recognize.

Thats not very impressive considering nintendo has been milking the same 10 characters for over 20 years. Imagine if Sony started making 3-5 Kratos games and spinoffs every generation, what would happen in 20 years? Anyways all of Nintendos characters are kid friendly so they can make tons of toys and other merchandise, so of course more people will know of the characters. Yet this means nothing to the king of video games title, now if it was the king of video games merchandise or king of video game toys or maybe king of reusing IPs, then I would agree. Just did I quick search and since 1981 and there are around 300 video games featuring the character MARIO.

Is Mario popular because there are so many Mario games or are there so many Mario games because he is popular?



Gameplay > Graphics

Substance > Style

Art Direction > Realism

RJTM1991 said:
taus90 said:

You are disregarding the power of Playstation as a brand,  outside of USA, Xbox have always been seen as an inferior brand. It was because of the name playstation that ps3 survived the same mistake what xbox one did and still  manage to sell the same amount of console as the most popular Xbox console in less time on the market. and if you think it was because of the launch blunders of Xbox one that made PS4 popular, I wouldn't disagree but thats not entirely true.

I dont think anyone would disagree when I say that at the end of 360 life cycle it felt like MS had abandoned their user base in terms of exclusive, and on the other hand in terms of exclusive Sony was on full song, and was flexing its First party muscle on PS3 even after the release of PS4. So IMO irrespective of MS PR blunder, i think what made PS4 more popular was the prospect of sony ability to pump out quality games at regular intervals and having quality First Party Developers. 

P.S.- Ohh not to mention, I think more than MS PR mess i think the biggest blow to Xbox brand was when Bungie appeared on PS4 reveal event and the destiny deal.

Playstation has always been a supermassive brand, but when it came to popularity last gen, the 360 had the PS3 beat.

In my opinion, the scales only tipped when the 360's casual audience jumped ship to the PS4.

The scales were in the favour of the PS3 the entire gen everywhere except the US. It won Europe at a canter without needing to wait for anybody to jump ship, and PS3 vs 360 in Japan was just a massacre.



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Dr.Vita said:
OTBWY said:
To research who the actual king of video games is, try this  of greaexperiment.

Hold up portraits of Mario, Kratos or MC. Ask about 1000 random people in the street who they recognize.


Stupid argument. Unlike Kratos or MC the Mario character has been milked by Nintendo now for more than 30 years. How many different franchises/genres does he have now? Super Mario 2D, Super Mario 3D, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis and so many more... Besides that Mario is one of the only few popular characters Nintendo has while Sony has more great and popular characters in different franchises besides Kratos for example Nathan Drake, Ratchet, Sackboy, Aloy, Cole MacGrath to name a few...

Who are those last two? I seriously have no idea were they come from and don't think I ever heard those names before.