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Forums - Politics Discussion - Trump proposes legislation that would restrict green card access for immigrants that use public assistance programs

CosmicSex said:
My boyfriend is technically poor but he works his ass off to the point where I think he is crazy. So I always take issue with people equating poverty to laziness. It just isn' like that at all. This boy works too much to the point where he isn't getting enough sleep. I keep saying that if he continues like that he is going to hurt his body. In his mind, its all about survival. To him its like, I have to work like this. He doesn't get assistance but he barely makes enough money to pay his bills.

That puts me in a weird situation because on one hand I know what hie is doing isn't healthy but on the other hand, who am I to tell him not to work for what he needs? He needs a better paying job (and just one) because he clearly isn't lazy.

Where are these folks in the conversation about need? Why do we only talk about extreme cases where someone is actually lazy. Its like a whole population is being ignored or packaged in with the very worst of society so we can just ignore them.

You actually hit something on the head that a lot of people seem to forget.  I am not sure about anyone else but I do not know any person who is a immigrant who are just sitting on welfare trying to draw a check.  If anything, most of the people I know work multiple jobs trying to put food on the table and pay basic bills.  As Americans seem to always equate poor with laziness this isn't always the case.  Instead, a lot of people work a lot of low income jobs which this country actually depend on.

This administration demonization of immigrants probably will be a 2 edged sword in later years.  I know for a fact that it has effect a lot of farmers within the state I live and who knows after this administration goes the damage it will cause.



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CaptainExplosion said:
TheBird said:
They put hispanics in the article name to make him look bad. He is really just getting rid of it for lazy people unwilling to work, and illegal immigrants. Cuz they didn't doing anything to earn free stuff.

You do realize you just lumped hispanics together with lazy people, right?

You do realize you just made that up, right?

Seriously, what causes the mental disconnect that allows people to completely misconstrue simple sentences?  And, how is it so widespread?



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Don't really see the problem with this, kinda rude for someone to go somewhere and expect to get things for free



melbye said:
Don't really see the problem with this, kinda rude for someone to go somewhere and expect to get things for free

Actually that's not what is happening.  The policy states if someone has ever use government assistance even if they are a legal immigrant, they cannot become a citizen.  It has nothing to do with getting something for free since it target legal immigrants who probably have jobs and pay taxes just like any American. 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article218876275.html

From this article it appears it doesn't target people who use Obamacare/ACA or the children healthcare program.  If this is the case then I will take back what I stated concerning my view on the Trump administration.  Even if they did thought to put those into this policy, at least someone with some brains made them reconsider.



Ka-pi96 said:
melbye said:
Don't really see the problem with this, kinda rude for someone to go somewhere and expect to get things for free

Are you saying you need more reason to believe it's bad than just "it was Trump's idea"? Preposterous!

Crazy idea, right



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No country should be importing people that require public assistance in the first place. It's nonsensical. If they're a citizen thats different or if theyre long time immigrants (usually by now citizens) and get down on their luck thats also different. Recent immigrants and candidates for residency should not be using programs or at risk of using them.



You expect the USA to be a charity and let everyone in and give them paychecks while they are at it?
Green Card should hold value and be hard to get, else being a born American means nothing and is complete unjust to the immigrants that add value to the country and made what America is today.
I am a Brazilian and would love to live in America. If you guys are handing free green cards (even if I don't think I deserve yet), save one for me. At least I am Engineer of one of the hardest school where I live and try my hard to give value to society, and not take it only.