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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Weekly, 4th August 2018, Software

Kerotan said:
Ps4 #1 overall software seller again this week.

As it should be with an 80m install base. Nintendo is giving Sony a run for their money with a 20m install base, incredibly impressive from Nintendo. 



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BoseDK said:
Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

Sadly like other Nintendo consoles I can already see the end of it's lifespan. After Smash and Pokemon are that'll be the end of Nintendo's titles that anyone cares about. There's really nothing left other than to start the cycle again and sequels to titles already on the console aren't going to keep the hardware going for long.

haha, trolling. funny.



Slownenberg said:
BoseDK said:

Sadly like other Nintendo consoles I can already see the end of it's lifespan. After Smash and Pokemon are that'll be the end of Nintendo's titles that anyone cares about. There's really nothing left other than to start the cycle again and sequels to titles already on the console aren't going to keep the hardware going for long.

haha, trolling. funny.

Huh? The average lifespan of a Nintendo console is around 4 years if things go really well. This is common knowledge. They simply don't have the catalogue to carry a console longer than that.



BoseDK said:
Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

Sadly like other Nintendo consoles I can already see the end of it's lifespan. After Smash and Pokemon are that'll be the end of Nintendo's titles that anyone cares about. There's really nothing left other than to start the cycle again and sequels to titles already on the console aren't going to keep the hardware going for long.

Animal Crossing, Pokemon 2019, Metroid, Fire Emblem, 2D Mario, 2D Zelda all would like a word with you. Switch is here to stay for a while, it may not do Wii numbers but it's not going to just fade away



curl-6 said:
Slownenberg said:

Switch is gonna take over the industry from PS4 next year. We already see it dominating the top 10 every week this summer, despite not having a single "major" game come out yet this year. Next year instead of 4 perennial selling Switch games living in the top 10 we could have 6 games basically setting up camp in the top 10, and that is before Pokemon or whatever other big hitters they have next year. Pokemon Let's Go and Smash are gonna super charge Switch going into 2019 and if Nintendo throws out a couple new bombs for 2019 other than mainline Pokemon along with perhaps a XL version and a price cut on the OG Switch it's gonna start dominating software and hardware.

When a Toadstool puzzle game that is a port from Wii U is the 9th best selling Switch game of the week and outsells every single non-Nintendo system game except for THE major release so far of the year for PS4, well that makes what is coming pretty obvious - total Switch domination next year.

Unless 2017 was a freak outlier and 2018 is the template for what the rest of Switch's lifespan will be like; 1-2 big games per year, ancient ports and scraps for the other 10/12 months.

I don't expect 2017 again as we're probably not gonna get 4 of the absolute biggest franchises in a single year again, but 2018 is obviously an outlier for Nintendo systems.

Unless Nintendo decided to shutdown half their development teams for no reason obviously this year is an outlier. I think its pretty clear they put a lot of effort into getting those big games out for launch year and then needed a year before they could start bringing out big guns again, and so filled that with some ports and a couple second tier games. Heck we didn't even know about Smash and Let's Go until what like this Spring? We already know about Metroid and Pokemon next year, no doubt there will be other big stuff we won't know about for another 6 months. Also I think it is clear third party games will be picking up next year as studios didn't really start development until after the Switch launched. Think of all the series that have yet to come out on the Switch. Nintendo has barely scratched the surface with the game series. We can expect new version of pikmin, several pokemon, new mario 2d not just the port, maybe another zelda, animal crossing, probably another 3D mario, paper mario, fzero?, probably a new DK game of some sort, metroid, certainly another mario party later on, star fox, mario maker new or port, more mario sports like maybe strikers, yoshi, maybe a luigi game, i'm sure there's a bunch more, then there's the typical portable series that will no doubt be finding a home on the Switch.

Anyway my point was that 2018 has clearly been a very slow year for Nintendo and it is still dominating the top 10 despite PS4 have 4x userbase and dominating the third party selection. Nintendo doesn't need more 2017's to dominate, it just needs normal years between 2017 and 2018 and it's software sales will dominate even more than they do now, which will no doubt lead to hardware domination as well. And Nintendo even said they expect third parties to arrive much quicker on Switch starting next year, so the game base will start expanding much beyond Nintendo and indies and ports.

Seems pretty obvious when Nintendo is dominating the top 10 just over a year after release during a very slow year for big games on the system that next year is just gonna start getting absurd in Nintendo's favor.



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BoseDK said:
Slownenberg said:

haha, trolling. funny.

Huh? The average lifespan of a Nintendo console is around 4 years if things go really well. This is common knowledge. They simply don't have the catalogue to carry a console longer than that.

You must have been born when the Wii U came out. ha, keep on trollin' though.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
Kerotan said:
Ps4 #1 overall software seller again this week.

As it should be with an 80m install base. Nintendo is giving Sony a run for their money with a 20m install base, incredibly impressive from Nintendo. 

As it should be. Ps4 was often pulling these numbers when their install base was between 20 and 30m aswell. It's in it's lull at the minute but nobody comes close to ps4 software when the big hitters start coming week after week from September to December. 



Kerotan said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

As it should be with an 80m install base. Nintendo is giving Sony a run for their money with a 20m install base, incredibly impressive from Nintendo. 

As it should be. Ps4 was often pulling these numbers when their install base was between 20 and 30m aswell. It's in it's lull at the minute but nobody comes close to ps4 software when the big hitters start coming week after week from September to December. 

Yup, people are saving their cash for the constant barrage of huge titles that will be dropping week after week for the next 3 months.



Kerotan said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

As it should be with an 80m install base. Nintendo is giving Sony a run for their money with a 20m install base, incredibly impressive from Nintendo. 

As it should be. Ps4 was often pulling these numbers when their install base was between 20 and 30m aswell. 

Which is still more impressive from Nintendo comsidering the lack of 3rd party support. Can you imagine if Nintendo had 3rd party support, the numbers would be astronomical lol 



Hey is this supposed to be all formats or Nintendo only?? joking... Spider-Man is coming to shake it out a little and pair with GoW.



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