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KBG29 on 11 September 2018

For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.



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Baddman on 11 September 2018
pokoko said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

From what I remembered reading. Marvel told Sony they could choose any IP they wanted and insomniac chose Spiderman. So It may just be a 1 game deal for now(just speculating)



NewGuy on 11 September 2018

Lol I can't believe people still think Sony owns the SM IP. 

Sony owns the license to produce live action and animated SM movies that are over 48 minutes long. That's it. 

Marvel (and consequently Disney) owns everything else related to the SM IP except for the theme park rights East of the Mississippi in the US and the SM theme park rights in Japan (both licenses are owned by NBCU, i.e. Comcast).

 

pokoko said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

My bad. Sony published the game, and thus owns the publishing rights to the game. In the end though, it just means that the game will never come to a non-Sony platform. Same relationship that Ratchet and Clank had. 

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

Basically correct.

KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Unlikely. Avengers and the rumored GoTG have gone to SE and will be multiplatform. Undoubtedly Marvel and Insomniac will work together again, possibly with Sony as the publisher again, but there are some rumors going around on resetera and neogaf that Disney may want to go back to being a game publisher after the smoke clears on the Fox acquisition. If that's the case then it's more likely that Disney buys Insomniac.

Baddman said:
pokoko said:

Ratchet and Clank is a first-party IP.  It belongs entirely to Sony.

Marvel's deal for Spider-Man probably goes through Sony, meaning it's a Sony game, and then Sony contracted Insomniac to work on it.  That means it goes a lot deeper than simple publishing rights, which can expire.  

From what I remembered reading. Marvel told Sony they could choose any IP they wanted and insomniac chose Spiderman. So It may just be a 1 game deal for now(just speculating)

Correct. Marvel did say that the future of Spidey is with Sony and Insomniac, but I doubt they signed an exclusive long term agreement like that. I have no doubt though that short term Insomniac will probably get to pick another Marvel property to work on and they might go for Spidey 2.



Chazore on 11 September 2018
KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Hopefully not, because it would be absolutely terrible to have all Marvel titles locked exclusively to one console. You're also forgetting that there are more gamers out there on multiple systems than there are on PS4 alone, you're effectively wanting future IP's from Marvel to make less as a result and wanting others to adhere to your, again, warped desires.

We've seen premium quality before on other systems, not just Sony alone and you know this, to make the boldest claim that no other system has produced good games, even good looking ones would be wholly absurd 



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BoseDK on 11 September 2018
Chazore said:
KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Hopefully not, because it would be absolutely terrible to have all Marvel titles locked exclusively to one console. You're also forgetting that there are more gamers out there on multiple systems than there are on PS4 alone, you're effectively wanting future IP's from Marvel to make less as a result and wanting others to adhere to your, again, warped desires.

We've seen premium quality before on other systems, not just Sony alone and you know this, to make the boldest claim that no other system has produced good games, even good looking ones would be wholly absurd 

That's all dandy but the fact remains that despite being exclusive Spiderman is now the fastest selling Marvel game in history. 

Clearly the quality Sony brings to a title is far more valuable than the extra potential sales of a Multiplatform release.



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atoMsons on 11 September 2018

It's pretty obvious what the next move is. It will 100% be a sequel to Spider-Man, and it will be a launch title or 1st year title for the PS5. That will establish the next generation for Sony, which is crucial to do early on if they want to have another dominant cycle.



BoseDK on 11 September 2018
atoMsons said:
It's pretty obvious what the next move is. It will 100% be a sequel to Spider-Man, and it will be a launch title or 1st year title for the PS5. That will establish the next generation for Sony, which is crucial to do early on if they want to have another dominant cycle.

Yeah Sony is poised to have Horizon Zero Dawn sequel, God of War sequel and Spiderman sequel within the first year of PS5 if it comes Holiday 2020.

I think this is the first time Sony will have a strong launch line up usually they tend to start off pretty slow.



vivster on 11 September 2018

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KBG29 on 11 September 2018
Chazore said:
KBG29 said:
For the best quality, and biggest return, they should stick with Sony for all Marvel IP. Same should be done with Star Wars. I know some would hate that, just like they hate Disney owning Marvel and Star Wars, but it would be best for business. 3rd party Multi-Platform games cost more, and require sacrifices to run on all platforms.

Hopefully we will see Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man exclusively on PS5.

Hopefully not, because it would be absolutely terrible to have all Marvel titles locked exclusively to one console. You're also forgetting that there are more gamers out there on multiple systems than there are on PS4 alone, you're effectively wanting future IP's from Marvel to make less as a result and wanting others to adhere to your, again, warped desires.

We've seen premium quality before on other systems, not just Sony alone and you know this, to make the boldest claim that no other system has produced good games, even good looking ones would be wholly absurd 

Other platforms are perfectly capable of producing high quality products. I am enjoying Halo Master Chief Collection right now on my Xbox One X, and looking forward to Forza Horizon 4 on October 2nd, and Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu on my Switch November 16th. 

All Systems have great exclusive games, with a sprinkling of decent Multi-Plats, but the multiplats never hold a candle to the exclusives. 

If all Marvel games were exclusive to PlayStation, it would not be that hard of a choice for Marvel fans when the go to pick up a new console. You know it is on PlayStation, and it is one of the highest quality games on the platform. 

What would be worse, is having say Iron Man Exclusive to Xbox, Spider-Man Exclusive to PlayStation, and The Incredible Hulk Exclusive to Nintendo. Or just continued mediocre Multiplats giving Comic book games a bad name.



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Lafiel on 11 September 2018
BoseDK said:
atoMsons said:
It's pretty obvious what the next move is. It will 100% be a sequel to Spider-Man, and it will be a launch title or 1st year title for the PS5. That will establish the next generation for Sony, which is crucial to do early on if they want to have another dominant cycle.

Yeah Sony is poised to have Horizon Zero Dawn sequel, God of War sequel and Spiderman sequel within the first year of PS5 if it comes Holiday 2020.

I think this is the first time Sony will have a strong launch line up usually they tend to start off pretty slow.

yea, and I'm pretty sure Death Stranding, TLoU2, Ghost of Tsushima and Dreams are cross-gen titles that will see image quality/performance benefits on day1 of PS5 launch