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COKTOE said:
Azuren said:

I don't even know why he cares since he claims to be PC so much.

 

Unless...

What's that you have running through your head Azuren? You think forvercloud is secretly Phil Fish? Spill the beans!

I was referring to another user's insistence on being a PC gamer in spite of their often irrational defense of Xbox.



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Biggerboat1 said:
EricHiggin said:

I guess if your talking different platforms and not different experiences, which is mostly what those other platforms offer, isn't it?

In that case, isn't the switch a different experience in handheld mode than on a big screen TV? 

Different version of the same experience. It would be like saying PSVR is a totally different experience whether your using a controller or the ps move sticks/sharp shooter. They may enhance it, but they don't change the PSVR hardware itself.

Based on what I was quoted on below, what I should have said was Switch is 3 different versions of the same experience. You can change up the way you use the hardware, but the hardware itself remains the same.

TomaTito said:
EricHiggin said:

Switch would be 3 different experiences in one using the same hardware. Unless your talking about Labo, and I'm not exactly sure that counts as hardware.
Good point about the phones. That could extend to Windows and Steam for PC though too couldn't it?

Docked, Handheld and Tabletop. I said no additional expense, Labo is out of the question since it acts as a peripheral.
How you classify mobiles and PC does not matter since they are on both sides of the equation.

If your going to pool all PC's into one category, and all mobile into another, then PS4, XB1, and Switch, etc, would all fall under consoles. To divide one category and separate others makes no sense. If you want to split them all into each of their respective niches, then the list needs to be much more in depth, which would ruin the point trying to be made.



HylianSwordsman said:
Amazing. And people are defending this shit. Simply amazing, the depths people will sink to for their brands.

Protip, arrogance in the gaming industry always ends badly eventually. PS2 made Sony arrogant, and it cost them dearly when PS3 released. Microsoft got arrogant after the 360 and Kinect, and made an always online built in DRM nightmare with a $100 privacy-concern-raising brick attached forcibly attached, and they never really recovered. Nintendo got arrogant after their runaway success with DS and Wii and made an overpriced DS successor that was overpriced for no reason, and an underpowered home console that couldn't be powered up without massively overpricing the system because it had a tablet attached that made the system difficult for 3rd parties to develop for, and then on top of it marketed the thing in the stupidest way possible making people think it was a $350 Wii add on, and they fell the hardest.

Nintendo learned their lesson. Microsoft took a little while but they seem to have learned their lesson. Sony seemed to learn their lesson, but now it's looking like they didn't at all. They just got lucky because Microsoft was even more arrogant at the beginning of the gen and Sony just took advantage of that and built an insurmountable lead, and now they think that was all their doing, when it was actually Microsoft's failure. Gen 9 will be interesting. With Microsoft still humbled by recent wounds, and Nintendo not competing directly, I can already see Sony having a horrible, arrogant reveal and Microsoft taking the lead for a gen, and I mean truly taking a lead, not a virtual tie. And since next gen might be the last gen, they might keep that lead forever, or at least until traditional home console experiences fade from popularity.

Why do people attribute PS3's failings to arrogance and not the rightful $600 price tag? I mean sure, you had to be kinda arrogant to think that wasn't going to be an issue but It was def the pricing plus the year head start for 360 that helped it stay ahead of the PS3.

The reality is that the Playstation platform has always out performed the competition. And usually at a margin that is undeniable. PS1, PS2 and now PS4 each have 50% plus marketshare of their respective Gens. The PS3 was the only anomaly. Yet even still....if you take away the 360's head start and align their releases you will see the PS3 outpaced the 360 almost the entire gen. IE, PS3 was always more popular worldwide than Xbox and would have handily out sold it if they came out same time. Arrogance and huge price point didn't even stop the PS brand, it was the tenacity of their competition.

There is a thin line between Confidence and Arrogance. Is Sony really arrogant when they have the history in performance and sales to back up that their method works?



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Amazing. And people are defending this shit. Simply amazing, the depths people will sink to for their brands.

Protip, arrogance in the gaming industry always ends badly eventually. PS2 made Sony arrogant, and it cost them dearly when PS3 released. Microsoft got arrogant after the 360 and Kinect, and made an always online built in DRM nightmare with a $100 privacy-concern-raising brick attached forcibly attached, and they never really recovered. Nintendo got arrogant after their runaway success with DS and Wii and made an overpriced DS successor that was overpriced for no reason, and an underpowered home console that couldn't be powered up without massively overpricing the system because it had a tablet attached that made the system difficult for 3rd parties to develop for, and then on top of it marketed the thing in the stupidest way possible making people think it was a $350 Wii add on, and they fell the hardest.

Nintendo learned their lesson. Microsoft took a little while but they seem to have learned their lesson. Sony seemed to learn their lesson, but now it's looking like they didn't at all. They just got lucky because Microsoft was even more arrogant at the beginning of the gen and Sony just took advantage of that and built an insurmountable lead, and now they think that was all their doing, when it was actually Microsoft's failure. Gen 9 will be interesting. With Microsoft still humbled by recent wounds, and Nintendo not competing directly, I can already see Sony having a horrible, arrogant reveal and Microsoft taking the lead for a gen, and I mean truly taking a lead, not a virtual tie. And since next gen might be the last gen, they might keep that lead forever, or at least until traditional home console experiences fade from popularity.

Why do people attribute PS3's failings to arrogance and not the rightful $600 price tag? I mean sure, you had to be kinda arrogant to think that wasn't going to be an issue but It was def the pricing plus the year head start for 360 that helped it stay ahead of the PS3.

The reality is that the Playstation platform has always out performed the competition. And usually at a margin that is undeniable. PS1, PS2 and now PS4 each have 50% plus marketshare of their respective Gens. The PS3 was the only anomaly. Yet even still....if you take away the 360's head start and align their releases you will see the PS3 outpaced the 360 almost the entire gen. IE, PS3 was always more popular worldwide than Xbox and would have handily out sold it if they came out same time. Arrogance and huge price point didn't even stop the PS brand, it was the tenacity of their competition.

There is a thin line between Confidence and Arrogance. Is Sony really arrogant when they have the history in performance and sales to back up that their method works?

Dude, you're nailing this shit. I briefly had the thought of touching on the idea that there was much more at play in the PS3 era than the corporate image Sony was projecting, but didn't have the energy to do it, much less deal with the potential follow up retorts.



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EricHiggin said:
TomaTito said:

Docked, Handheld and Tabletop. I said no additional expense, Labo is out of the question since it acts as a peripheral.
How you classify mobiles and PC does not matter since they are on both sides of the equation.

If your going to pool all PC's into one category, and all mobile into another, then PS4, XB1, and Switch, etc, would all fall under consoles. To divide one category and separate others makes no sense. If you want to split them all into each of their respective niches, then the list needs to be much more in depth, which would ruin the point trying to be made.

I am not pooling PC or mobile into any category because of how the cross-platform market joke was defined when this quote began. Let me type it out so it is easy to understand.

Mobile + PC + NS + XB1 > Mobile + PC + PS4

You can cancel out Mobile and PC, since they are equal on both sides of the equation. Either way it was you who (jokingly?) wanted to add PSVR into the equation, so I jokingly said Switch can do that too and without an add-on.

OK, that ends the summary. Maybe the division should be on companies rather than platforms; since Sony does not want to cross-platform with Microsoft or Nintendo, but they don't care about Apple, Google, Valve, etc. Is there even cross-platform with the Windows Store games?



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SuperNova said:
Wait, crossplay with iOS is a-ok, but letting xbox, let alone Nintendo, in on the fun would just sully the experience?
Playstation is settin themselves up for a bg fall next gen if they continue on with this arrogance.

Who said it is OK? Unfortunately people have to put up with this fidget spinner of the gaming world.

 



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SuperNova said:
Wait, crossplay with iOS is a-ok, but letting xbox, let alone Nintendo, in on the fun would just sully the experience?
Playstation is settin themselves up for a bg fall next gen if they continue on with this arrogance.

The lack of crossplay won't really hurt the PS4 much anymore. But the PS5 could get a rocky start, especially if the Xbox next is much more competitive compared to what the One was to the PS4. If Microsoft plays it's cards right and brings a powerful, well supported Xbox from the get-go next gen, then the less consumer-friendly policies of Sony will bite them in their ass, just like it did to the Xbox this gen. Doubly so if the Switch is still beasting by then.



Pemalite said:
Best on PC.
Better graphics.
Better framerates.
Higher resolutions.
Better controls.

Gaming on the go.
Exclusives.

#PCGaming+SwitchMasterRace

Fixed.



twintail said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

The lack of crossplay won't really hurt the PS4 much anymore. But the PS5 could get a rocky start, especially if the Xbox next is much more competitive compared to what the One was to the PS4. If Microsoft plays it's cards right and brings a powerful, well supported Xbox from the get-go next gen, then the less consumer-friendly policies of Sony will bite them in their ass, just like it did to the Xbox this gen. Doubly so if the Switch is still beasting by then.

PS5 having full BC with PS4 will mitigate most of this tbqh.

But if Sony does see a sales drop then yeah they will open up their policies.

Only if they do implement BC, which ain't certain at all