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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Looking back, 3rd party support on the 3DS wasn't that great

xxbrothawizxx63 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

With the rise of mobile at that time, all big Western 3rd party focus on them, leaving Western indie for handheld.  The indie games on 3ds while not big, still league ahead DSi. Vita showed interest with many mediocre spin-offs (both 1st and 3rd party) and dumbed-down ports that look bad or run like garbage. At least in 3DS case, many games (both 1st and 3rd party) are good exclusives. 

Mobile causing shrinkage in the portable market was inevitable. Those that were still interested didn't care at all for 3DS because it wasn't an exciting platform in any way or feel like the right choice for their titles considering the power constraints. It was just another handheld that would sell Nintendo games. 

This is a ridiculous argument. Just because AC and CoD weren't a locked 30fps doesn't say anything about support. The fact is, western publishers chose to support the Vita at all because the hardware was there.  Ubisoft cancelled its 3DS AC game, but still released Liberation on vita. 

Except CoD on Vita is garbage and AC Liberation got nothing on even AC3, let alone the later releases on consoles. "HD quality console game on the go", the slogan is already a big lie.



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HoangNhatAnh said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

Mobile causing shrinkage in the portable market was inevitable. Those that were still interested didn't care at all for 3DS because it wasn't an exciting platform in any way or feel like the right choice for their titles considering the power constraints. It was just another handheld that would sell Nintendo games. 

This is a ridiculous argument. Just because AC and CoD weren't a locked 30fps doesn't say anything about support. The fact is, western publishers chose to support the Vita at all because the hardware was there.  Ubisoft cancelled its 3DS AC game, but still released Liberation on vita. 

Except CoD on Vita is garbage and AC Liberation got nothing on even AC3, let alone the later releases on consoles. "HD quality console game on the go", the slogan is already a big lie.

The point of my argument was that a number of Western studios supported the Vita instead of the 3DS because of the power gap. We weren't arguing about whether Sony and its partners lived up to the promise of the Vita. AC and CoD were major showings or support that the 3DS never got. The platform died before anyone considered doing more. 



xxbrothawizxx63 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Except CoD on Vita is garbage and AC Liberation got nothing on even AC3, let alone the later releases on consoles. "HD quality console game on the go", the slogan is already a big lie.

The point of my argument was that a number of Western studios supported the Vita instead of the 3DS because of the power gap. We weren't arguing about whether Sony and its partners lived up to the promise of the Vita. AC and CoD were major showings or support that the 3DS never got. The platform died before anyone considered doing more. 

Well, in that case, 3DS have two Tom Clancy games and an exclusive Lego City, prequel to Wii U ver but yeah, Western support for both platforms since 2014 are mostly small games and indies.



xxbrothawizxx63 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Except CoD on Vita is garbage and AC Liberation got nothing on even AC3, let alone the later releases on consoles. "HD quality console game on the go", the slogan is already a big lie.

The point of my argument was that a number of Western studios supported the Vita instead of the 3DS because of the power gap. We weren't arguing about whether Sony and its partners lived up to the promise of the Vita. AC and CoD were major showings or support that the 3DS never got. The platform died before anyone considered doing more. 

Oops, double post, sorry.



Salnax said:  -snip-

That's a nice comparison chart. Though Rockstar is undisputed mvp for psp. Monster hunter didn't really move the needle outside japan. Meanwhile the two GTA games were THE system sellers, the killer apps of the system. In addition to that there is gta chinatown wars, midnight club 3, and midnight club la, which all sold very well.

And a microsoft dev ended up being mvp for a sony platform...lmao..



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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HoangNhatAnh said:
xxbrothawizxx63 said:

The point of my argument was that a number of Western studios supported the Vita instead of the 3DS because of the power gap. We weren't arguing about whether Sony and its partners lived up to the promise of the Vita. AC and CoD were major showings or support that the 3DS never got. The platform died before anyone considered doing more. 

Well, in that case, 3DS have two Tom Clancy games and an exclusive Lego City, prequel to Wii U ver but yeah, Western support for both platforms since 2014 are mostly small games and indies.

A port of a 6 year old game (that also ran significantly worse than Declassified) and a SRPG that was actually good, but uninteresting vs the burgeoning mobile market they were trying to stave off. Tom Clancy also didn't even approach the market share of CoD and AC at the time.  

AC liberation alone is better than almost any equivalent 3DS title. Lego is the closest, but has reduced impact since it's a pseudo port. Batman Arkham Origins is another standout.

Still, the support was ridiculously light and didn't even best its competitor that showed greater weakness almost immediately. Batman had to abandon the gameplay that made it popular to make its way to the system (even if it was a solid game).  Many of the games seemed to be "failures" too. 

The 1st year of 3DS was terrible in terms of overall quality (most of them were already mediocre Wii ports, but ran poorly on the 3DS's hardware), but what little was there evaporated quickly when it was apparent software sales were completely dead on the Wii. Ports just became completely unrealistic. 

Last edited by xxbrothawizxx63 - on 10 September 2018

Yeah, Western support for 3DS is almost non-exist, Switch already have much healthier support speaking generally, and it ended with much more more and diverse games than 3DS.



xxbrothawizxx63 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Well, in that case, 3DS have two Tom Clancy games and an exclusive Lego City, prequel to Wii U ver but yeah, Western support for both platforms since 2014 are mostly small games and indies.

A port of a 6 year old game (that also ran significantly worse than Declassified) and a SRPG that was actually good, but uninteresting vs the burgeoning mobile market they were trying to stave off. Tom Clancy also didn't even approach the market share of CoD and AC at the time.  

AC liberation alone is better than almost any equivalent 3DS title. Lego is the closest, but has reduced impact since it's a pseudo port. Batman Arkham Origins is another standout.

Still, the support was ridiculously light and didn't even best its competitor that showed greater weakness almost immediately. Batman had to abandon the gameplay that made it popular to make its way to the system (even if it was a solid game).  Many of the games seemed to be "failures" too. 

The 1st year of 3DS was terrible in terms of overall quality (most of them were already mediocre Wii ports, but ran poorly on the 3DS's hardware), but what little was there evaporated quickly when it was apparent software sales were completely dead on the Wii. Ports just became completely unrealistic. 

Lego City on 3DS is still exclusive though. Batman was on both systems, right? Vita 1st year was not much better and the sales as well as many Western big 3rd party support almost drop completely outside some ports and horrible spin-off.