Those who constantly complain about SJW's are just as bad as SJW's.
Honestly, there are more important things in life that are more deserving of your attention.
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Will BF5 Fiasco scare other companies from pushing agendas in games? | |||
yes | 29 | 42.03% | |
no | 40 | 57.97% | |
Total: | 69 |
Those who constantly complain about SJW's are just as bad as SJW's.
Honestly, there are more important things in life that are more deserving of your attention.
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FentonCrackshell said:
These folks who care so much for historical accuracy sure pitched a fit when Mafia III showed an uber-racist USA in that era. At that point historical accuracy wasn’t so important. Hmm...? |
I played Mafia 3 and the racism is exaggerated to the point of absurdy. You would have to exclusively go to KKK ridden areas to find that level of it which he was doing. I thought the game was entertaining. He was fighting democrats most of the time. 😂 The story and music were the best part of the game.
The entire thread is fairly risible, because it is predicated on two ridiculous assumptions:
1) Pre-orders being "below expectations" is now a "failure"... It's still doing pretty much better than almost anything else on the market, which really tells you more about companies' expectations
2) Somehow this is due to a "controversy" most people aren't even be aware of. Hell, due to an answer to said controversy in an interview, which would still require massive numbers of people being at all bothered by women being in the game.
The poll is also biased as hell, but that's par for the course, I guess.
A "What are you even on about?" option would be appreciated
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Literally the next line my guy! And what flashfire is criticizing IS a misrepresentation because the developer was not talking about prosthetic limbs and cricket bats. However, the comment the developer made was dumb (just from the simple fact that it is technically wrong in regard to what they've shown), as I said "You could make a case that the comment is pretty stupid because it isn't very substantive". Nothing in your comment is substantive because it either doesn't apply or is literally addressed in my comment. I am fully aware there are completely different sides that just happen to fall under the anti-EA flag. In fact, I say it in the comment! Wow! |
that's my point! you pointed out his contradicting statements as base of your argument, yet you went on and gave three scenario for EA's statement and how it could have been perceived and then went on to contradict yourself by saying "Sad thing is, the comments given by the developers and EA are just as dumb as what the fanbase have stated. Really, there is no defending a company as shitty as EA or a developer as lolbad as DICE."
So what makes Flashfire argument and contradiction invalid and yours valid?
Pemalite said: Those who constantly complain about SJW's are just as bad as SJW's. Honestly, there are more important things in life that are more deserving of your attention. |
So true! The people who see racism and sexism in everything are just as nauseating as the folks who don’t think it exists or see it and chose to remain ignorant.
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taus90 said: that's my point! you pointed out his contradicting statements as base of your argument, yet you went on and gave three scenario for EA's statement and how it could have been perceived and then went on to contradict yourself by saying "Sad thing is, the comments given by the developers and EA are just as dumb as what the fanbase have stated. Really, there is no defending a company as shitty as EA or a developer as lolbad as DICE." So what makes Flashfire argument and contradiction invalid and yours valid? |
Pardon me, but unless you simply need to rephrase your point, that's not a contradiction? It could be that I am just failing to understand, and if so I truly apologize, however what I am getting from your comment is that you believe I am contradicting myself by saying that EA and DICE's statements are dumb after criticizing Flashfire for making a comment that was a wrongful "interpretation" or exaggeration for the sake of criticism of said statement?
Uhm ... if that is what you believe, that isn't a contradiction. You can believe a statement is dumb but then still say how people misconstrue it is also dumb. In this example if Flashfire said that the statement was wrong regarding women serving in certain territories, and it was factually correct, then nothing would be wrong with the statement. But he added onto it (and I believe purposefully to be disingenuous and exaggerate an already very large point) as if the statement was talking about prosthetic or cricket bats, which it wasn't. And even if he was talking about the full quote, by the end of the quote the developer exclaims it's a "game" which is obviously a way of saying that leniency is needed. So yeah, what is the contradiction?
Errorist76 said:
I’m sure you didn’t play TLOU either because Ellie was kissing a girl in the first game already. |
Yep I pkayed it a lot, one of my favorite games ever. I wont try to reason with you, will be probably worthless.
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
That's just it though. Much of the controversies surrounding "SJW Propoganda" doesn't actually have anything to do with SJWs. Inclusiveness is not an idea that is mutually exclusive with SJWs or the far left. |
Not sure what you mean. Inclusiveness as an agenda is SJW. Problem is that there are companies and groups purposefully trying to inject more inclusiveness and diversity in to media and it's not simply happening as a byproduct of content creation. That's why we have a female supergirl, bat woman and in fact characters even changing genders and races as well. Companies are purposefully trying to be more inclusive due to sjw pressure.
ResilientFighter said: SJW in gaming is bad there should be any gore or sexual freedoms its a damn game thats why rating systems exist |
Pre orders dropped 85% for the game, so yes it is failing.
ResilientFighter said: seeing you love doom so much, how can you be happy conservatives try and blame doom for children becoming satanists and mass shooters? |
I dont like doom and I'm not conservative so not sure of your point here. I simply don't like SJW agendas being pushed in every aspect of society.
xbebop said: So, what's the controversy here? It's a video game, not a documentary. Battlefield is already nowhere near being an accurate simulation of war, so who cares about the inclusion of women as playable characters?
P.S.: Women did, in fact, fight in the war. |
I dont know why you equate being anti SJW with being conservative. I'm not conservative (dude I voted Bernie), but I'm anti SJW. These female characters are being added as part of a diversity agenda. They were never considered as avatars for many, many years the franchise has been running, but all of a sudden they are? It's not an accident, it was a planned change to include them to propagate certain agendas.
collint0101 said: I encounter way more anti sjws than I encounter actual sjws. Jesus Christ people do you not see the irony in this? Threads like this are just as whiny and annoying as watching a group of hardcore feminist go on about mansplaining on Tumblr. It's the exact same kind of self righteous bitching and moaning and expecting the entire planet to cave into your narrow minded viewpoint |
Yeah there are more anti-sjw's. Just like there were more moderates than nazi's during WW2. So what?
Errorist76 said: The narrow mindedness of some people here is shocking. There are many more reasons why the game doesn’t get many pre-orders. I’m sure the girl sniper is the least of them.
Nothing more to add. |
Not sure that's the case, I personally know 3 people boycotting this and it's all because of the sniper girl as you call it. And yeah, all these people have been fed up with EA for a while now due to their business practices, but this is what pushed them over the edge to boycott.
DialgaMarine said: Doubt it. Developers will just label anyone, who doesn’t blindly throw money at them, as bigots and then try even harder. |
For some reason, people actually like this even less and become less likely to buy a product. I know people who were perfectly fine with Battlefield V until EA started making stupid comments, and then they decided not to get it. Reminds me of what happened with Ghostbuster 2016. The director and actors made similar "if you don't like it, you're a bigot" comments. Turns out, even people who aren't bigot don't like ultimatums like that and don't want to support emotional blackmail.
...Problem is that if you don't want 'woman in my Man game', there are dozens of other games than Battlefield with female protagonists to contend with. Lest you forget that last year had mega hits like Horizon and Splatoon 2 that prominently feature female characters, and you have plenty of more of those this year and up and coming from Lara Croft to Samus Aran.
The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?