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JWeinCom said:
Zoombael said:

 

 

No, not really. I was very clear and direct. And i quote:

 

 

 


If you dont have any idea whatsover shouldnt you refrain from making any fantastic assumptions? Not very sciency, is it? Not... rational. No, not at all.

 

 

 

Science isnt standing still, yet you act like it has come to a dead end and with it religion. And i ask again, who is my God and what is my religion? If your reply as before. And what did i reply to your response? Exactly. 

But to quench your curiosity: Hardly. Since science isnt anywhere near solving the mystery of existence. Secondly, importantly, whatever the outcome, that is my religion. Muahahaha!

 

 

 

Correct. Einsteins and my views on religion and spirituality are identical.

"So far, anyone claiming that there is a god had been unable to demonstrate it.  If you think you can, go for it. 

O really? So, when you demanded from some left over aztecs to summon their feathered serpent god with a pompous ritual, they failed to do so? Intriguing, intriguing very much.

 

The title of the thread is: Do you believe in God? Why/Why not?

But hey, let me give you back a question:

From your perspective, what happens to the Universe (spacetime) when your body ceases to exist (death)?

I thought it would be implied, but if not let me revise my statement.  

To the best of my knowledge, nobody claiming a god exists has ever been able to demonstrate it.  If you know of any Aztecs who claim to be able to summon gods, please send them my way.  It's curious though that you'd go to that example instead of trying to prove it yourself.

As for your question, I don't know what will happen when I die.  However, I don't see any reason to think that my death will effect spacetime as a whole since, as far as we can tell, none of the millions of deaths occurring within my lifetime have had an impact on spacetime.

 

Why is it curious though? Didnt you read the whole post?

 

Curious is why the heck i am supposed to prove anything. I dont narrow it down to someone, something, somewhen, somewhere. Hasnt the Bible thaught you anything?

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image!

 

You re the one who claims there is no god, resp. there is no god because science says we dont live on a flat plane or ridin a tortoise. A very shortsighted and antiquated approach.

 

The crude irony of the anti-theist doctrine, it relies on the same withered holy scrolls and books it condemns, trying to "prove" a point. What you re doing is beating a dead horse. Whats more you drag poor old science into this. Not believing in god bc science. It doesnt  make any sense. As if there is a united scientific front against anything godly and holy. I dont believe in Aliens because science. At least i have a base of scientific hypotheses..

 

Anti-theist would be the correct terminology. Not a-theist. And you wouldnt call a newborn a-sexual or a-social. Wouldnt make much sense doosit? 

 

"However, I don't see any reason to think that my death will effect spacetime as a whole since, as far as we can tell, none of the millions of deaths occurring within my lifetime have had an impact on spacetime."

 

Mh. You re saying, when you travel 90% lightspeed, it wouldnt effect spacetime. There would be no traversing and no time dilation. Ok. Ill take that for an answer.



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Zoombael said:
JWeinCom said:

I thought it would be implied, but if not let me revise my statement.  

To the best of my knowledge, nobody claiming a god exists has ever been able to demonstrate it.  If you know of any Aztecs who claim to be able to summon gods, please send them my way.  It's curious though that you'd go to that example instead of trying to prove it yourself.

As for your question, I don't know what will happen when I die.  However, I don't see any reason to think that my death will effect spacetime as a whole since, as far as we can tell, none of the millions of deaths occurring within my lifetime have had an impact on spacetime.

 

Why is it curious though? Didnt you read the whole post?

 

Curious is why the heck i am supposed to prove anything. I dont narrow it down to someone, something, somewhen, somewhere. Hasnt the Bible thaught you anything?

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image!

 

You re the one who claims there is no god, resp. there is no god because science says we dont live on a flat plane or ridin a tortoise. A very shortsighted and antiquated approach.

 

The crude irony of the anti-theist doctrine, it relies on the same withered holy scrolls and books it condemns, trying to "prove" a point. What you re doing is beating a dead horse. Whats more you drag poor old science into this. Not believing in god bc science. It doesnt  make any sense. As if there is a united scientific front against anything godly and holy. I dont believe in Aliens because science. At least i have a base of scientific hypotheses..

 

Anti-theist would be the correct terminology. Not a-theist. And you wouldnt call a newborn a-sexual or a-social. Wouldnt make much sense doosit? 

 

"However, I don't see any reason to think that my death will effect spacetime as a whole since, as far as we can tell, none of the millions of deaths occurring within my lifetime have had an impact on spacetime."

 

Mh. You re saying, when you travel 90% lightspeed, it wouldnt effect spacetime. There would be no traversing and no time dilation. Ok. Ill take that for an answer.

I have no idea what is being said here 



JWeinCom said:
Zoombael said:

 

Why is it curious though? Didnt you read the whole post?

 

Curious is why the heck i am supposed to prove anything. I dont narrow it down to someone, something, somewhen, somewhere. Hasnt the Bible thaught you anything?

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image!

 

You re the one who claims there is no god, resp. there is no god because science says we dont live on a flat plane or ridin a tortoise. A very shortsighted and antiquated approach.

 

The crude irony of the anti-theist doctrine, it relies on the same withered holy scrolls and books it condemns, trying to "prove" a point. What you re doing is beating a dead horse. Whats more you drag poor old science into this. Not believing in god bc science. It doesnt  make any sense. As if there is a united scientific front against anything godly and holy. I dont believe in Aliens because science. At least i have a base of scientific hypotheses..

 

Anti-theist would be the correct terminology. Not a-theist. And you wouldnt call a newborn a-sexual or a-social. Wouldnt make much sense doosit? 

 

"However, I don't see any reason to think that my death will effect spacetime as a whole since, as far as we can tell, none of the millions of deaths occurring within my lifetime have had an impact on spacetime."

 

Mh. You re saying, when you travel 90% lightspeed, it wouldnt effect spacetime. There would be no traversing and no time dilation. Ok. Ill take that for an answer.

I have no idea what is being said here 

Yes, i know.

Say, when i write "from your perspective" does it mean anything else other than "from your point of view"?



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Yes, I choose to believe the universe has a intelligent entity that is Creation itself. Basically all that exists is part of God and God has influence over all.



Zoombael said:
JWeinCom said:

I have no idea what is being said here 

Yes, i know.

Say, when i write "from your perspective" does it mean anything else other than "from your point of view"?

Yeah... I just really don't see any kind of fruitful conversation happening hear.  Later.

superchunk said:
Yes, I choose to believe the universe has a intelligent entity that is Creation itself. Basically all that exists is part of God and God has influence over all.

Why did you choose to believe this.



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superchunk said:
Yes, I choose to believe the universe has a intelligent entity that is Creation itself. Basically all that exists is part of God and God has influence over all.

Then prove it.



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mZuzek said:
Pemalite said:

Then prove it.

Why does he have to prove his own beliefs lol. This is what's wrong with most atheists.

If you are going to assert something is true, then you need to be able to prove it.

That is the thing that is wrong with Theists, they claim their deity exists... And then instill religion into various tiers of society and force their perspective onto others whilst denying science without any single shred of evidence.



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Pemalite said:
mZuzek said:

Why does he have to prove his own beliefs lol. This is what's wrong with most atheists.

If you are going to assert something is true, then you need to be able to prove it.

That is the thing that is wrong with Theists, they claim their deity exists... And then instill religion into various tiers of society and force their perspective onto others whilst denying science without any single shred of evidence.

Like... dude.  He just said calmly said what he believes.  Your tone with everyone is unnecessarily aggressive.  Chill.



JWeinCom said:

Like... dude.  He just said calmly said what he believes.  Your tone with everyone is unnecessarily aggressive.  Chill.

I am never aggressive.

mZuzek said:

He literally just said "I choose to believe". He didn't claim anything or try to force his beliefs on anyone, you're the one getting over-defensive for no reason.

And? If you are going to proclaim your personal beliefs as something that is factual, then the logical thing to do is have evidence to justify said beliefs.

This is literally why there are people in the world who believe that the world is flat... Because they believe it on the entire assumption of "faith". - Which is belief without evidence.



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Pemalite said: 
mZuzek said:

He literally just said "I choose to believe". He didn't claim anything or try to force his beliefs on anyone, you're the one getting over-defensive for no reason.

And? If you are going to proclaim your personal beliefs as something that is factual, then the logical thing to do is have evidence to justify said beliefs.

This is literally why there are people in the world who believe that the world is flat... Because they believe it on the entire assumption of "faith". - Which is belief without evidence.

?

He wasn't doing that...

He stated what he chooses to believe and that was it...

I am never aggressive.

Most of your posts come off as very aggressive imo.

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