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Locknuts said:
Errorist76 said:

Obama brought the USA up again after Bush ran it into the ground. What has Trump done that makes him better instead of alienating his country, splitting it, making the laughing stock of the world and making terrible decisions regarding security, world peace and the environment?

Trigger happy with the war machine? Did you forget about Trump‘s record budget, something space force ? Do You even hear yourself?

What happened to your old account btw?

 

 Other countries respect America more now than in a long time, even if their president looks and talks funny.

I believe that’s a huge misconception. The worldwide respect for the USA has never been this low, not even under Bush.

 

Locknuts said: 

Every sensible person agrees that a strong military is important. 

The US already has by far the biggest spending and military apparatus on this planet. To even call this new budget sensible is a farce.

 

Locknuts said: 

 

I think Trump's decisions regarding security and the environment have been very good so far. 

Destabilising the Middle East by recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Quitting the Paris agreement. Allowing extended drilling...

Can you please elaborate what good decisions he has made regarding security and the environment?

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 23 August 2018

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Man the interviews Trump is giving is golden. You talk about someone getting unhinged. Each and every time he opens his mouth he just builds the case for prosecutors without even knowing it. I know his lawyers are telling him to STFU but what can you do when you have an idiot who doesn't know he is an idiot.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
More Fake News! Truth isn't Truth!

Haha,

Trump York City:



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Yikes...

Yeah, Trump is kinda fucked here. 



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

David Pecker just rolled. The head of the National Enquirer was just granted immunity in exchange for providing information on the hush money deals. As I stated before, once Cohen flipped, everyone who believe they could be sweeped up in this whole mess will be looking to make deals. Trump's thumps are about to break off with all the tweeting he will be doing once more people start to role. I think we should start a poll thread on who is next on the list.



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Machiavellian said:
David Pecker just rolled. The head of the National Enquirer was just granted immunity in exchange for providing information on the hush money deals. As I stated before, once Cohen flipped, everyone who believe they could be sweeped up in this whole mess will be looking to make deals. Trump's thumps are about to break off with all the tweeting he will be doing once more people start to role. I think we should start a poll thread on who is next on the list.

Paying hush money isn't illegal. 



Hiku said:
bowserthedog said:

It may "seem" that way. But its not.  There's nothing illegal about paying hush money. 

Cohen pleaded guilty to breaking campaign finance laws due to those hush payments.
If the payments would benefit Trump's campaign, they should be registered as campaign finances. And they were not.

He plead guilty but that doesn't mean it was a crime. The bank fraud and other things were the serious offenses. He could have been looking at a lot longer than 3-5 years.  But the prosecutors didn't really care about that what they want is something on Trump. So they got Cohen to plead guilty to something connected to Trump even though there is a good chance a crime hadn't been committed. And even if there had been the maximum penalty for not reporting something as a campaign expense is a fine. It's not a big deal. Obama's campaign was fined for the same "crime" having been committed. At the end of the day I can guarantee you that nothing of substance will come out of this. At most the Trump campaign but not trump personally will be fined a few hundred thousand dollars. 



SpokenTruth said:
bowserthedog said:

Paying hush money isn't illegal. 

But violating campaign finance law is.

Right but it's not a serious thing. Obama did it too and was fined.  It's not something you go to jail for or get impeached for.



https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784



bowserthedog said:
SpokenTruth said:

But violating campaign finance law is.

Right but it's not a serious thing. Obama did it too and was fined.  It's not something you go to jail for or get impeached for.

In order to violate campaign finance law, what transpired must have been directly related to the campaign, and must only have been done for the sole purposes of the campaign. If there are any other non campaign related reasons why it might have been done, then it's not violating the law.