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Cerebralbore101 on 22 August 2018
Lawlight said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Because Zelda CDi was nothing like the Nintendo games, and a complete joke? Tekken on GBA was nothing like the PS2 games. It wasn't even 3D. And Tekken is a 3D fighting series. The same thing can probably be said for Zone of the Enders, but IDK because I never played it on GBA. 

Not moving the goalpost here. Just pointing out that the only reason why Timesplitters/SSX was exclusive was due to there not being anything else to release it on at the time. In other words Timesplitters/SSX were never meant to be exclusives. 

Gamefaqs has Burnout releasing five months after the PS2 version for both Xbox and GC. So it wasn't really an exclusive, but rather just a multiplatform game that had two versions delayed.

What was the first Ridge Racer to come to Xbox, GameCube or PC? I might give you that one. 

I'm sorry man, but so many of these seem to be a stretch. GBA gets a spinoff game, completely unrelated to the main series. A game comes out in early 2000, before Xbox or GameCube even exist, and then promptly goes multiplat in a year or two. A game gets an unplayable, awful port to PC. A game gets ported to Wii in 2007 when the PS2 era was technically over. 

It’s not my fault if those Zelda games are a complete joke. BotW looks nothing like those 3DS games - are they not Zelda games either? Tekken GBA looks like Tekken with less good graphics.

It’s 6 months between the Burnout releases. Factor in the dates.

So let me get this straight. Only games that fulfill the following criteria are valid;

- Must be released on the PS2 after the GC and Xbox have been released.

- Must be released on PS2 first and then on other systems.

- I will let you specify the time between the releases as 6 months doesn’t seem to be enough for you.

- The game has to be part of the main series.

- The game needs to not have bugs.

- The game has to be released during the PS2’s generation.

Any more conditions you want to add to your original statement? Keep in mind, this all started because you claim that the PS3’s sales is what caused devs to go multiplatform. Now you’re bending backwards to show that this wasn’t happening before the PS3.

1. If the other two systems don't exist yet, it was never meant to be exclusive. There just wasn't anything else to release it on at the time. And it would have been faster to release the sequel on those systems than bother doing a port of the first game.

2. Of course it must be released on PS2 first. Otherwise we're not talking about Sony exclusives going multiplatform. And the argument was that Sony exclusives have been going multiplatform since before PS3. 

3. Prove to me that Burnout wasn't always intended as multiplat. They probably started working on ports of Burnout before the PS2 copies even shipped. 

4. If I were to make a thread titled "Animal Crossing going multiplatform", and then use Animal Crossing Pocket Camp as my example, the thread would be derided as clickbait. The argument is over games going multiplatform, not series. Games. Ask 99% of the people on these forums if Animal Crossing is exclusive to Nintendo. They will all answer, "yes" without even thinking about the phone game. 

5. Yeah, I gave you DMC3 releasing on PC. 

6. Yes of course it has to be released during PS2's generation. This argument is about games going multiplatform before PS3. Post 2006 isn't before PS3, and therefore doesn't help your case.  



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iamsomeone on 22 August 2018

Why?

they where third party timed exclusives to which the contract had expired or always where intended to multiplat after a certain time

 

Should sony do something about it?

maybe 

 

Can they do something about it?

they could pay more for longer timed exclusives

 

What would be effect of this next gen?

dont think this will have any effect next gen people will still buy ps. they have enough great 1st party excusives and some third party exclusives.

 

the way i see it sony can lose those third party exclusive deals they have more than enough exclusives. xbox on the other hand if they start losing games they already have very few exclusives. the list they can lose before having noting left is already shorter than what sony has "lost"



Qwark on 22 August 2018

What can Sony do about it?
Open more studio's and make those games themselves or pay for the development of said games and get the rights



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Sixteenvolt420 on 22 August 2018

At this point, it's not like most of those games matter. They've been out long enough on Playstation, that they've most likely sold most of what they're gonna sell, on PS4.



DaveTheMinion13 on 22 August 2018

A bunch of games never announced as full exclusives......



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Lawlight on 22 August 2018
Cerebralbore101 said:
Lawlight said:

It’s not my fault if those Zelda games are a complete joke. BotW looks nothing like those 3DS games - are they not Zelda games either? Tekken GBA looks like Tekken with less good graphics.

It’s 6 months between the Burnout releases. Factor in the dates.

So let me get this straight. Only games that fulfill the following criteria are valid;

- Must be released on the PS2 after the GC and Xbox have been released.

- Must be released on PS2 first and then on other systems.

- I will let you specify the time between the releases as 6 months doesn’t seem to be enough for you.

- The game has to be part of the main series.

- The game needs to not have bugs.

- The game has to be released during the PS2’s generation.

Any more conditions you want to add to your original statement? Keep in mind, this all started because you claim that the PS3’s sales is what caused devs to go multiplatform. Now you’re bending backwards to show that this wasn’t happening before the PS3.

1. If the other two systems don't exist yet, it was never meant to be exclusive. There just wasn't anything else to release it on at the time. And it would have been faster to release the sequel on those systems than bother doing a port of the first game.

2. Of course it must be released on PS2 first. Otherwise we're not talking about Sony exclusives going multiplatform. And the argument was that Sony exclusives have been going multiplatform since before PS3. 

3. Prove to me that Burnout wasn't always intended as multiplat. They probably started working on ports of Burnout before the PS2 copies even shipped. 

4. If I were to make a thread titled "Animal Crossing going multiplatform", and then use Animal Crossing Pocket Camp as my example, the thread would be derided as clickbait. The argument is over games going multiplatform, not series. Games. Ask 99% of the people on these forums if Animal Crossing is exclusive to Nintendo. They will all answer, "yes" without even thinking about the phone game. 

5. Yeah, I gave you DMC3 releasing on PC. 

6. Yes of course it has to be released during PS2's generation. This argument is about games going multiplatform before PS3. Post 2006 isn't before PS3, and therefore doesn't help your case.  

Ok. I’ll get you that list. As for Burnout, the onus is on you to prove that the games were just delayed. From where we’re sitting now, it started as a PS2 exclusive.

Also, don’t use AC Pocket Camp as an example as the examples that I gave were released on dedicated systems. Would we say that Persona would be discounted because it’s a spin-off? Valkyria Revolution is not a VC game? Also, technically AC isn’t exclusive to Nintendo systems if they’re also releasing it on mobile. That doesn’t change no matter what 99% of this site says.



vivster on 22 August 2018

Don't you mean games are winning platforms? It's a great thing and nobody should do anything about that.



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Lawlight on 22 August 2018
Cerebralbore101 said:
Lawlight said:

It’s not my fault if those Zelda games are a complete joke. BotW looks nothing like those 3DS games - are they not Zelda games either? Tekken GBA looks like Tekken with less good graphics.

It’s 6 months between the Burnout releases. Factor in the dates.

So let me get this straight. Only games that fulfill the following criteria are valid;

- Must be released on the PS2 after the GC and Xbox have been released.

- Must be released on PS2 first and then on other systems.

- I will let you specify the time between the releases as 6 months doesn’t seem to be enough for you.

- The game has to be part of the main series.

- The game needs to not have bugs.

- The game has to be released during the PS2’s generation.

Any more conditions you want to add to your original statement? Keep in mind, this all started because you claim that the PS3’s sales is what caused devs to go multiplatform. Now you’re bending backwards to show that this wasn’t happening before the PS3.

1. If the other two systems don't exist yet, it was never meant to be exclusive. There just wasn't anything else to release it on at the time. And it would have been faster to release the sequel on those systems than bother doing a port of the first game.

2. Of course it must be released on PS2 first. Otherwise we're not talking about Sony exclusives going multiplatform. And the argument was that Sony exclusives have been going multiplatform since before PS3. 

3. Prove to me that Burnout wasn't always intended as multiplat. They probably started working on ports of Burnout before the PS2 copies even shipped. 

4. If I were to make a thread titled "Animal Crossing going multiplatform", and then use Animal Crossing Pocket Camp as my example, the thread would be derided as clickbait. The argument is over games going multiplatform, not series. Games. Ask 99% of the people on these forums if Animal Crossing is exclusive to Nintendo. They will all answer, "yes" without even thinking about the phone game. 

5. Yeah, I gave you DMC3 releasing on PC. 

6. Yes of course it has to be released during PS2's generation. This argument is about games going multiplatform before PS3. Post 2006 isn't before PS3, and therefore doesn't help your case.  

Question - are we going to ignore the Dreamcast? Also, are we excluding PC?



Errorist76 on 22 August 2018

Those games were timed exclusives from the start. They were exclusives for a year or even more. Why should Sony do something about it? It’s still a considerable advantage.



xl-klaudkil on 22 August 2018

Owboy,sony is doomed now!
Firstparty is the only thing that matters when where talkng about exclusives,you know that thing sony is killing it with this gen.



 

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