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Do you Approve of President Trump?

Yes 42 39.62%
 
No 59 55.66%
 
In the middle. 5 4.72%
 
Total:106

Wow, it's almost like the mainstream media completely blows things out of proportion and relies and sensationalism to get ratings. The media has a major trust problem and are very much out of touch with a large chunk of America, and data like this proves it. If anything, they're probably working against their own cause by crying wolf so many times. Hell, I don't even like Trump, but the media's constant hysterics and fear mongering about him to attempt to brainwash people (while nothing around me and anyone I know has remotely changed in a negative way in the last 2 years) constantly causes me to second guess my dislike for the man and question their agendas.

A lot of people seem to be completely on one side of the fence or another when it comes to Trump. He's either a savior of America and a God Emperor or he's the literal Devil and Hitler rolled into one. I tend to hold this crazy notion that the reality is somewhere in the middle. Trump is merely a sleazy business man who is probably too egotistical for his own good, Xenophobic, and somewhat naive in certain areas, but I honestly believe he also does want what's best for the country and may be able to help economically. And while he's got a myriad of flaws and is rough around the edges, the his negative attributes are blown insanely out of proportion by the media and the suckers that buy everything the say hook line and sinker.



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So does the approval rating count now? Or are Trump supporters gonna try and have it both ways and say it only counts in situations that look favorable to him? Because its been lower than other president's for the majority of his tenure and will likely dip down below, Obama had a full blown economic crisis put onto his plate at that point in his presidency because the mortgage collapse, Reagan's approval rating jumped after he got shot (lol), Clinton's took off as the dot com boom emerged as his presidency went along. 

Trump has a red hot economy (one he inherited from Obama), at least on external metrics, and his approval rating is only 42%, meaning he can't even crack 50% in fairly favorable conditions. I don't think that bodes well for him, it means any down tick in the economy (which is inevitable) will send his numbers crashing into the 30s.

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You can see Trump's approval ratings and how they compare to past presidents here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/




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He is doing the best Donald Trump can do for Americans, and so far that has been a lot more than we have seen from any President in my 30 years. I don't deal much in the big cities, but in the factories I visit, the people on the floor are very happy right now with his performance. I work in Manufacturing, and this is easily the most unified I have ever seen people on the floor be about a president. We have a lot of first generation Americans from all over europe and asia, and many of them are very supportive of his policies, and agree with his views on immigration.

The only thing I am not 100% on board with is his progress in the LBGTQ community. I don't think he has done massive harm, but his push to stop transgender people from serving our country does not sit well with me. This is one area I give Obama high praise for.

I think President Trump is exactly what America needed right now. Someone that will stop giving away our country, and fight for the working class. Not someone that is looking to sell off jobs, and build live off the government programs. I honestly don't see him as a Democrat or a Republican. I see him as Donald Trump, and I hope that can lead to future Presidents and Politicians that make their own decisions, and don't walk the party line. IMO, the Dems and Reps have been destroying this country, and driving its people apart. We needed someone to break their grasp, and hopefully build a path to bringing us together as a more United States of America. So, Trump having high approval ratings is great news in my book.



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42% isn't a high approval rating, it's just a cherry picked point where for one stretch Trump measures comparably to other presidents, lol.

42% means more than half the country disapproves of your job performance. It's a failing grade. The fact that 42% is the best he can muster with a relatively decent economy handed to him means that if/when the economy ever downticks or the impacts of his massive deficet spending kicks in, he's going to drop into the 30% range. Which is horrendous.



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KBG29 said:
He is doing the best Donald Trump can do for Americans, and so far that has been a lot more than we have seen from any President in my 30 years. I don't deal much in the big cities, but in the factories I visit, the people on the floor are very happy right now with his performance. I work in Manufacturing, and this is easily the most unified I have ever seen people on the floor be about a president. We have a lot of first generation Americans from all over europe and asia, and many of them are very supportive of his policies, and agree with his views on immigration.

The only thing I am not 100% on board with is his progress in the LBGTQ community. I don't think he has done massive harm, but his push to stop transgender people from serving our country does not sit well with me. This is one area I give Obama high praise for.

I think President Trump is exactly what America needed right now. Someone that will stop giving away our country, and fight for the working class. Not someone that is looking to sell off jobs, and build live off the government programs. I honestly don't see him as a Democrat or a Republican. I see him as Donald Trump, and I hope that can lead to future Presidents and Politicians that make their own decisions, and don't walk the party line. IMO, the Dems and Reps have been destroying this country, and driving its people apart. We needed someone to break their grasp, and hopefully build a path to bringing us together as a more United States of America. So, Trump having high approval ratings is great news in my book.

Thats what he said, but its not what he has done.



KBG29 said:
He is doing the best Donald Trump can do for Americans, and so far that has been a lot more than we have seen from any President in my 30 years. I don't deal much in the big cities, but in the factories I visit, the people on the floor are very happy right now with his performance. I work in Manufacturing, and this is easily the most unified I have ever seen people on the floor be about a president. We have a lot of first generation Americans from all over europe and asia, and many of them are very supportive of his policies, and agree with his views on immigration.

The only thing I am not 100% on board with is his progress in the LBGTQ community. I don't think he has done massive harm, but his push to stop transgender people from serving our country does not sit well with me. This is one area I give Obama high praise for.

I think President Trump is exactly what America needed right now. Someone that will stop giving away our country, and fight for the working class. Not someone that is looking to sell off jobs, and build live off the government programs. I honestly don't see him as a Democrat or a Republican. I see him as Donald Trump, and I hope that can lead to future Presidents and Politicians that make their own decisions, and don't walk the party line. IMO, the Dems and Reps have been destroying this country, and driving its people apart. We needed someone to break their grasp, and hopefully build a path to bringing us together as a more United States of America. So, Trump having high approval ratings is great news in my book.

Yeah, he's definitely not a Republican at least in the traditional sense, the same way Bernie wasn't really a Democrat but mainly just ran under the party name for a chance to be elected (one only need look at how much he's hated by most republicans like McCain, shit it's even more than a lot of Dems hate for him). Unfortunately for Bernie though, the Dem's weren't having the subversion and barred him from having a real shot thanks mainly to the superdeleagtes, while the Republicans were able to be infiltrated. If anything Trump is closet to a Tea Party or Constitutionalist president, which, as a Libertarian, I have some overlap with, so I can at least respect Trump in certain areas.

I definitely agree about his harm in barring Trans from the military, that's pure discrimination plain and simple, and his excuse for doing it is laughable.

Trump to me is not far removed from a third party candidate gaining the presidency, which I have a soft spot for as I despise the two party duopoly. I just wish we could have had a true outsider face-off in Bernie vs Trump, rather than Clinton vs Trump.



Megiddo said:
Deficit is increasing like crazy. Hilarious for a 'conservative' to be spending so much money and taking the whole country further into the red. Has started a trade war with America's largest trading partners. He has degraded trust in American leadership on the global scale by constantly belittling our allies in NATO and has shown unparalleled admiration for dictatorial leaders like Vladimir Putin and Kim-Jong Un. He implemented policy to separate young children from their parents.

Would love to hear specific examples of the 'good for the country' @Aeolus451 Do you have any or do you merely speak in vague nonsense?

Ugh. People really like bubbles. Okay, with the kids being separated from their parents, let me set ya straight. Firstly, a judge made it so Kids could not stay with the detained parent after a certain amount of days during Obama's presidency because the judge deemed it immoral to keep the kids with parents while detained.  It's really difficult to believe the left's crocodile tears about kids being separated from their parents when they didn't care during Obama's presidency, when they support abortion and it's a handy political hammer to hit Trump with. Secondly, Trump's policy was to prosecute all illegals entering the country illegally and ICE only followed the law in enforcing immigration laws.  Either a different judge overrules the old order or congress does something about it.

Anyway, here's my list. Renegotiating trade deals by using tariffs and other tactics, dropped the US out of the paris accord, tax cuts, loosening restrictions on harvesting natural resources/approving pipelines, being tougher on illegal immigration, got NK to release american prisoners and pipes down for nothing but some tweets and a meeting, moved US embassy to Jerusalem, already chose one supreme court justice.. about to choose another, removed individual mandate of obama care, signs right to try drug bill, strengthens work requirements for welfare, unemployment fell to lowest level in 18 years, black unemployment fell under 6% for the first time ever, economic growth is great. Best of yet, Trump is a master at trolling the left into hysteria and being honest for a change.



He just outpaced the 4 least approved of presidents, that's still pretty bad.



Aeolus451 said:

got NK to release american prisoners and pipes down for nothing but some tweets and a meeting

moved US embassy to Jerusalem

unemployment fell to lowest level in 18 years, black unemployment fell under 6% for the first time ever, economic growth is great.

Just a few examples, but

1. So far North Korea has already benefitted massively  by actually doing nothing. Yeah, great. As it looks they're still building and developing missiles and everything else, it's just now Trump doesn't care.

2. Great move to mess up the whole situation even more, as anyone can see clearly if he/she just looks

3. This, believe it or not, is to a very big part, 'inherited'from the Obama administration. What we can see so far though is, that throwing tons of money into economy by raising the deficit to an alltime high helped economic growth in the short term. Very often that is a short lived straw fire though.

 

What i actually see is Murica getting less and less important globally though. Maybe if the US quit selling weapons to everyone and Russia and China will be able to sell mire it might get totally insignificant with two terms Trump.