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BlackBeauty said:
DonFerrari said:
When you are at the cellphone level, doesn't matter how expensive it's (and there is a lot of premium charged) it shows it won't be long before Switch will be in a hard place against nextgen PS and Xbox.

The 3ds and gameboy weren’t in a hard place against PS3 and Xbox now was it?

Good thing the switch is mobile. On top of that, it’s running a generic mobile soc with fully EXISTING upgradable parts. Unlike Nintendo previous portables with custom chips.

So in reality, Nintendo could update the switch YEARLY if they want. Tegra roadmap exist already. X2 > Xavier> Pegasus > Orin 


Gameboy certainly wasn't bothered by PS3. And 3DS sales are a sad low against DS... still none of them tried to be competing against consoles did they? Or get direct ports;



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DonFerrari said:
BlackBeauty said:

This video is kinda doo doo. Missing many important informations and straight up WRONG in some of them.

Switch has better LOD, Draw Distance

better models, ambient occlusion, better geometry, etc

list goes on.

Are you sure you are more qualified than DF for analysis on pure graphical stuff?

Most people are. They have been wrong MANY times and never bothered to make corrections.



DonFerrari said:
BlackBeauty said:

This video is kinda doo doo. Missing many important informations and straight up WRONG in some of them.

Switch has better LOD, Draw Distance

better models, ambient occlusion, better geometry, etc

list goes on.

Are you sure you are more qualified than DF for analysis on pure graphical stuff?

Indeed. I think we can firmly stand-by digital foundry until BlackBeauty has the empirical evidence that directly contradicts Digital Foundry's claims.

BlackBeauty said:
DonFerrari said:

Are you sure you are more qualified than DF for analysis on pure graphical stuff?

Most people are. They have been wrong MANY times and never bothered to make corrections.

And debate was had at those points in time, with evidence.



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DonFerrari said:
zorg1000 said:

I never see you questioning when people post Xbox One X vs Switch comparisons.

Switch is a hybrid, meaning it shares the strengths & weaknesses of both mobile devices & home consoles so if one comparison is valid than the other is valid by default.

Quite common for people defending Switch to forget that it have both S and W for both console and HH. Sure for a lot of people the benefits are much larger while for some others the cons are bigger... but we certainly need to remember it benefits and is hindered by its hybrid nature.

Yep and since its a device that acts as its seperate thing that falls in the middle of those two categories, it either needs to be compared to both or to neither.



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Green098 said:

Thought it was very impressive considering this is Switch in handheld mode and that the Galaxy S9 Plus is around almost $1000 with top of the line mobile specs. That's the power of a dedicated gaming handheld.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUrx_WSpT-A

*Switch undocked footage captured with a modded Switch capture card

Comparing this to Digital Foundry's video, it's clear this vid wasn't running in the epic preset. With the Epic quality setting, Switch does get beaten, but not by much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Xdf0A70SQ



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Pemalite said:
DonFerrari said:

Are you sure you are more qualified than DF for analysis on pure graphical stuff?

Indeed. I think we can firmly stand-by digital foundry until BlackBeauty has the empirical evidence that directly contradicts Digital Foundry's claims.

BlackBeauty said:

Most people are. They have been wrong MANY times and never bothered to make corrections.

And debate was had at those points in time, with evidence.

The evidence is in their video. We don’t need anymore evidence. 

They flopped with their “analysis” once again. 

Still remember their claims about BOTW and Odyssey not having any AA in docked mode when their videos showed the opposite. Even the comments pointed it out. It was embarrassing actually. They also didn’t have balls to upload a correct analysis.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Green098 said:

Thought it was very impressive considering this is Switch in handheld mode and that the Galaxy S9 Plus is around almost $1000 with top of the line mobile specs. That's the power of a dedicated gaming handheld.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUrx_WSpT-A

*Switch undocked footage captured with a modded Switch capture card

Comparing this to Digital Foundry's video, it's clear this vid wasn't running in the epic preset. With the Epic quality setting, Switch does get beaten, but not by much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Xdf0A70SQ

Only basically in res undocked. Switch undocked still has console object assets, better effects, textures, geometry, LOD, TAA?, steadiest framerate, and controllers +res is still pretty on par at (1280x720 dynamic). I still agree with Digital Foundary's conclusion that Switch is the portable version that they would go for.

There were a good amount of things looked over in the video though that others have concluded, all that I've listed.

However the iOS version doesn't actually have better "draw distance" than Switch. It has better foliage draw distance. You can see that in DF's video:



The mountain in the distance, which is more rounded and has a higher polycount on Switch than on the other versions. (it's not supposed to have a pointy peak)

Last edited by Green098 - on 15 August 2018

And I don’t know what kind of settings they used to capture the switch footage. Coz mine is not that washed out.


Last edited by BlackBeauty - on 15 August 2018

BlackBeauty said:
And I don’t know what kind of settings they used to capture the switch footage. Coz mine is not that washed out.

Probably didn’t enable full RGB. Kinda weird for a channel with” tech knowledge”

All of this was Switch undocked, so it wouldn't be that I don't think since it's a TV setting? So it's probably something to do with the different capture methods, and that epic might of over-saturated the mobile versions a tad.

Which I think is a bit of what's mostly the case here. You can see the Switch battle bus has a much richer shade of blue compared to the mobile's more paler/brighter blue.

But I still think in other areas Switch's capture was a tad washed out compared to what you actually see on the Switch's display and when docked on the TV.

Last edited by Green098 - on 15 August 2018

Green098 said:
BlackBeauty said:
And I don’t know what kind of settings they used to capture the switch footage. Coz mine is not that washed out.

Probably didn’t enable full RGB. Kinda weird for a channel with” tech knowledge”

All of this was Switch undocked, so it wouldn't be that I don't think since it's a TV setting? So it's probably something to do with the different capture methods, and that epic might of over-saturated the mobile versions a tad.

You’re right lmao. I’m the idiot lol now forget what I said.