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Keybladewielder said:
If the Switch spends more time competing with the PS4/X1 than with the PS5/X2, I'd say it's 8th gen.

PS4/Xb1 will last until 2020.
NSW will have spent 2017 -> 2020 with them.

I doubt it ll see 4-5 years alongsides the PS5/Xb2.... can anyone see the Switch lasting until 2025?
Its gonna end up spending more time vs the PS4/XB1.



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JRPGfan said:
Wyrdness said:

I group NS as a 9th gen because it succeeds an 8th gen platform as a new platform, nothing complicated about it.

Then I name the PS4pro & XB1X as 9th gen too... and PS5/XB2 will be the 10th gen!
It doesnt make sense just cus you say something.

A gen can have more than 1 console in it, Nintendo Wii U time was just so short, they had 2 consoles in their 8th gen.

You're just being silly now those aren't stand alone new platforms they're different models otherwise by your logic here PS2 Slim was new platform.



JRPGfan said:
Keybladewielder said:
If the Switch spends more time competing with the PS4/X1 than with the PS5/X2, I'd say it's 8th gen.

PS4/Xb1 will last until 2020.
NSW will have spent 2017 -> 2020 with them.

I doubt it ll see 4-5 years alongsides the PS5/Xb2.... can anyone see the Switch lasting until 2025?
Its gonna end up spending more time vs the PS4/XB1.

Guess what 3DS is still active now and will be active into next year and 2020 a full 9 years so NS as the only portable dedicated gaming device with no competition is going to have a long run as well picking up the torch from it and having a market all to itself.



Wyrdness said:
JRPGfan said:

Then I name the PS4pro & XB1X as 9th gen too... and PS5/XB2 will be the 10th gen!
It doesnt make sense just cus you say something.

A gen can have more than 1 console in it, Nintendo Wii U time was just so short, they had 2 consoles in their 8th gen.

You just being silly now those aren't stand alone new platforms they're different models otherwise by your logic here PS2 Slim was new platform.

Imo thats no more silly than saying its 9th because... its new and last one was 8th, and ignoreing its competition.

Generations are definded by the group things belong to.
Not unto themselves.

 

this is the way we use generation for consoles:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/generation

"the entire body of individuals born and living at about the same time"

 

its a body of individuals born and liveing at about the same time.
3 individuals = ps4, xb1, switch.

They are selling now against one another thus belong to the same generation of consoles.



JRPGfan said:
Wyrdness said:

You just being silly now those aren't stand alone new platforms they're different models otherwise by your logic here PS2 Slim was new platform.

Imo thats no more silly than saying its 9th because... its new and last one was 8th, and ignoreing its competition.

Generations are definded by the group things belong to.
Not unto themselves.

Competition never had a bearing on Gen classification otherwise you're trying to argue Megadrive/Genesis is a gen 3 platform, gens were determined by a new platform succeeding a prior one groups were defined by gens not the other way around.

 

Edit: On the last part 360 sold alongside PS2 and GC for over a year under your logic that makes it gen 6.



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I knew this would turn into a war.



It is Nintendo's fifth generation handheld. It is not a home console. It is a handheld that can connect to a television. It came out in the same month they launched their previous handheld. It uses mobile technology and all of that technology is in... believe it or not, the handheld unit. The dock is an accessory that now in Japan, you can buy Switch without. Imagine if Switch had launched, exactly as it is, but the dock was sold separately. 99% of you would see it for what it is, a handheld. But marketing has you fooled.

And this is not me making fun of Switch. I have been one of the biggest supporters of Switch since the moment it was announced. I have even argued with people and asked, "when was the last time a Nintendo handheld had bad third-party support?" the correct answer is never. Nintendo makes killer handhelds and this console being a handheld pretty much secured its success. It is not a home console so this topic should be cast to the shadow realm.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
It is Nintendo's fifth generation handheld. It is not a home console. It is a handheld that can connect to a television. It came out in the same month they launched their previous handheld. It uses mobile technology and all of that technology is in... believe it or not, the handheld unit. The dock is an accessory that now in Japan, you can buy Switch without. Imagine if Switch had launched, exactly as it is, but the dock was sold separately. 99% of you would see it for what it is, a handheld. But marketing has you fooled.

And this is not me making fun of Switch. I have been one of the biggest supporters of Switch since the moment it was announced. I have even argued with people and asked, "when was the last time a Nintendo handheld had bad third-party support?" the correct answer is never. Nintendo makes killer handhelds and this console being a handheld pretty much secured its success. It is not a home console so this topic should be cast to the shadow realm.

As a handheld it technically would be 6th gen because Virtualboy exists.



I was thinking like maybe the GameCube and the Wii as Wii should be labeled as 6th gen, the Wii U as 7th gen, and the Switch as Nintendo's 8th gen system. I think that makes the most sense, technologically speaking, since the 7th gen is typically defined by the transition to HD and the Wii U was Nintendo's first HD system, where the original Wii was just a small technological leap up from the GameCube.



I'm kinda torn about this. Not about the question as it is, but about the generation thing at all. On the one hand, I see the usefulness to group things in the same category. On the other hand it is only working because most of the time the manufacturers decided to release their platforms not to far removed from each other.

But there are already examples that stretch the definitions of gens. Look, the Dreamcast and Xbox weren't sold at the same time (Dreamcast was killed 2001, end of 2001 released the Xbox). Still they both are counted towards the PS2-gen. In reality though Dreamcast and Xbox never competed against each other.

Depending on the overlap it makes sense to me, to compare the Switch to both, the PS4 and Xbox One, but also to PS5 and Scarlett. At least if Nintendo does not release Switch 2 a year after PS5 drops.



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