lightningfunk said: the people arguing that there should be free stuff really need to hit rock bottom so that they can learn something new like economics |
You don't believe in free stuff?
lightningfunk said: the people arguing that there should be free stuff really need to hit rock bottom so that they can learn something new like economics |
You don't believe in free stuff?
lightningfunk said:
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1 Wrong US debt is 21 trillion dollar and GDP 18 trillion dollar do debt percentage is above 100% of the Gdp.
Germany is debt is 2.45 trillion dollars and Germany is GDP is 3.6trillion euro's so almost 3.8 trillion dollars so Germany is GDP surpasses its debt. The GPD of France and UK are alsoslightly, bigger than their debt.
2. The banking and financial center in London is huge.
3. US has plenty of oiliand oil money if I am not mistaken.
4. Its very much related to thisthread however and a valid point when discussing debt. d
Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar
lightningfunk said:
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- USA's GDP is dependent on the dollar market being maintained some thing which China, Russia and various other countries threaten as they want to trade in other currencies which would remove US from the equations as far as trade goes that's the flaw in going by US GDP as the debt here is on far more shaky ground than other countries.
- Yeah really
- Again this can just be down to the US' inefficient approach to things many other countries have far less debt.
- Libya is a North African country not a Middle Eastern one, they have Oil but like Nigeria they have other resources they can make use of once Oil starts to falter I'm well aware of Saudi's econ situation that's the Middle East how ever not Africa much of the resources in the latter aren't e untouched.
- It's very much related because if you can spend an infinite budget on conflicts you don't need to be in which generate far more debt than health care and education aren't really a problem. The truth of the matter is higher ups don't want health and education integrated into the system because they make far too much money charging people for it so will tell you anything to try and pass off why it can't be done.
Qwark said: 1 Wrong US debt is 21 trillion dollar and GDP 18 trillion dollar do debt percentage is above 100% of the Gdp. look at the UK debt to GDP ratio Germany is debt is 2.45 trillion dollars and Germany is GDP is 3.6trillion euro's so almost 3.8 trillion dollars so Germany is GDP surpasses its debt. The GPD of France and UK are alsoslightly, bigger than their debt. look at UK's external debt,its far higher 3. US has plenty of oiliand oil money if I am not mistaken. really? - then why are people working.Why not like people in Saudi Arabia? USA has alot of oil but it cost's alot to get it out of the ground unlike places like middle east |
Wyrdness said: - USA's GDP is dependent on the dollar market being maintained some thing which China, Russia and various other countries threaten as they want to trade in other currencies which would remove US from the equations as far as trade goes that's the flaw in going by US GDP as the debt here is on far more shaky ground than other countries. the dollar as world reserve currency is a whole other topic - Again this can just be down to the US' inefficient approach to things many other countries have far less debt. no the tuition fee makes college viable and the jobs after college degree valauble,remove this and college education is worthless if everybody gets it,it is simple supply and demand - Libya is a North African country not a Middle Eastern one,they have Oil but like Nigeria they have other resources they can make use of once Oil starts to falter I'm well aware of Saudi's econ situation that's the Middle East how ever not Africa much of the resources in the latter aren't e untouched. i meant that only,stop nitpicking and understand what the other person is trying to get at - It's very much related because if you can spend an infinite budget on conflicts you don't need to be in which generate far more debt than USA spends 4-5% of their GDP on military which is fair and not much health care and education aren't really a problem. they would be a problem if they were free The truth of the matter is higher ups don't want health and education integrated into the system because they make far too much money charging people i am well aware of high medical expenses and outrageous college tuition but that is what is risk and reward system and makes medical innovation and good colleges that people from all over the world come to attend |
lightningfunk said:
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- The are a load of other topics that factor into this one that's the point.
- Again as other countries have proven education doesn't become worthless with another system in place.
- It's not nitpicking it's a big factor as the's a difference between the two regions, the fact that Trump thinks that one region is a shit hole in his own words yet that region has had countries that not only accumulate more wealth than most developed countries but have little or no debt at all while having health care and education integrated, that says a lot.
- From your own post you've said it's a problem not being integrated so clearly the are better options and examples to look at.
- Many countries with integrated education come up with just as many innovations if not more, the people going there from other parts of the world have their expenses and all paid for by the countries they're coming from as well which kind of undermines your point here.
Starbucks should first learn how to make coffee before Starting to invole in politics.
Cocos, strawberry chocolate is anything but not coffee. A ristretto without milk and sugar or an espresso without milk and sugar, thats coffee.
Wyrdness said:
- Again as other countries have proven education doesn't become worthless with another system in place. it does when its free - It's not nitpicking it's a big factor as the's a difference between the two regions, the fact that Trump thinks that one region is a shit hole in his own words yet that region has had countries that not only accumulate more wealth than most developed countries but have little or no debt at all while having health care and education integrated, that says a lot. and where is that country compared to USA in living standards or world power? - From your own post you've said it's a problem not being integrated so clearly the are better options and examples to look at. i never said anything about integration - Many countries with integrated education come up with just as many innovations if not more, no it doesn't the people going there from other parts of the world have their expenses and all paid for by the countries they're coming from as well which kind of undermines your point here. new wealth created in countries like China which has earned that wealth going from a system like communism to capitalism is how that wealth was created |
lightningfunk said:
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- No dude the are countries that flat out prove this wrong on many levels.
- During the era I'm referring to before western military interference it was close to developed countries like the US and those in Europe.
- Integration is how you make health care and education free.
- The last 2 parts makes no sense as what you said doesn't even match what you're replying to.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/22/us-life-expectancy-is-low-and-is-now-projected-to-be-on-par-with-mexico-by-2030.html
The US has basically the lowest life expectancy of all developed countries.
Besides, all the hardline defenders of "american exceptionalism" need to get their heads out of the sand, specially if they are talking shit of European nations. I should need not to remember most North Americans descent from either the poor and the rejected strata of society (such as prostitutes and drunks) or British religious zealots which more or less wanted to live on a Christian version of the Islamic State. So let's, uh, deflate our chests a little bit before talking, shall we?