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Azzanation said:

Your entire post sounds like a "You problem" not a "Business problem."

To put it simple, MS heard the cries of people claiming Xbox has no games, so there addressing it. Hence these rumours.

Obsidian games would fit ideally into the MS family. They make old school/style RPG games, and MS being a major PC brand seems to work. Not sure why you think they wouldn't, your reasoning sounds more like jealously than anything else.

You choose to boycott brands with your own logic, than boycott these brands, no one is forcing you to buy there games or play on these platforms. The absorption adds more quality titles to a Store that's growing.

Steam was bad at launch and no one wanted to game on Steam until Steam grew its library and started to mature. I hated Steam, I had issues installing Half Life 2 yet 13 years later and 1100+ games later I still use Steam. Products improve, but you seem to have this mindset that Win10 Store wont and that its a MS product you choose not to support. That's fine. Either way these are rumours and regardless what happens I can play Obsidian games either on Steam or maybe on Win10 in the near future. You are in control of your own future bud.

PS - Your opinions on me are not needed in here.

No, that's you deciding to pin it that way because it suits your flippant side of the argument. You would more than gladly turn anything I have to say right back at me to suit your view on MS. You've used mirror argument in the past, deflecting whatever I have to say about MS and turning it into a Steam one, which itself shows poor debate skills. 

Like it or not, the Win 10 store is universally disliked and not looked upon kindly. It is a storefront that isn't mentioned worldwide in the same sentence "amazing storefront" let alone "pro consumer", and certainly nowhere near in range of "mod supportive". It makes buying them a bad business decision because you are effectively pulling the most gimpish and utterly childish (because you honestly love saying it) decision while saying "buy it at my storefront or get out". People are more than allowed to voice their god damn opinion against that storefront and I diligaf at whatever pro argument you have to say about it. The storefront is gutter trash and PC gamers worldwide know this. Trying to spin it as if we are in the minority is completely insane, childish and disingenuous.

Obsidian isn't "ideal" for the MS "family", because MS has had a large history of shutting down studios and warping them and their IP's into something else. YOu think like a horrible mega corp exec that thinks buying everything is okay and that everything will "fit" under said "family". You don't actually look at this as an average consumer, because you are in fact one, not some greedy and mindless corp exec, but you're trying to come off as one with that spiel about "fitting in". 

MS is hardly a major "PC brand" these days besides having an OS that has no competition, as well as one that loves to grasp onto their EEE strategy. It's thanks to their EEE strategy that they've managed to come through this far.

You call it boycotting because it suits your anti argument, but I couldn't care less. I get to choose what I do with my own damn money, not you, you will never get to decide what I do with it and you shall live with that. I absolutely will look down on people like you because you think you can tell me where to shop and what I should buy with my money. I can spend my money where I want, when I want and I can support other companies without having to buy from another, which doesn't automatically fall under that childish tag you love using. 

The absorption quality actually subtracts from the general market, because one company is busy absorbing everything, but I guess you'd like it if Disney ran absolutely everything like MS would if given the chance. 

Valve actually tried with their storefront for years. They've had years on their own to advance the way they have and guess what?, MS has had many, many years to do the same and yet they haven't once decided to take a page from Steam's book at all. I've been watching that storefront since it arrived, and MS hasn't done much to improve it drastically the way Steam has over the years. You know damn well that given prior research and evidence, that you can improve upon an existing concept at a much faster rate vs not having anything to run off of. 

 

PS- Your opinion on this matter isn't needed here either, so take that and go for run.



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Good for MS. About time they addressed their first party situation. It will also push Sony to build/ acquire more studios.



Azuren said:

If you want to define it that way, go ahead. Everyone else who are on the outside looking in will continue to see it for what it is. And honestly, given your love for Microsoft, you'd think your position would be to have more games for the MS Store and Xbox.

 

I guess you're more worried about defending MS than enjoying MS.

It seems that's exactly what you have defined it as. "MS just closes studios down" why else would you make such a comment? Why does it bother you if MS buys Obsidian if you don't think they will shut them down?

How exactly am I defending MS? That they plan on expanding there business? There's nothing to defend, there's no negative to it aside from the desperate that try to make this sound like a negative idea. I am just spouting the rumours nothing more.

Chazore said:

 No, that's you deciding to pin it that way because it suits your flippant side of the argument. You would more than gladly turn anything I have to say right back at me to suit your view on MS. You've used mirror argument in the past, deflecting whatever I have to say about MS and turning it into a Steam one, which itself shows poor debate skills. 

Like it or not, the Win 10 store is universally disliked and not looked upon kindly. It is a storefront that isn't mentioned worldwide in the same sentence "amazing storefront" let alone "pro consumer", and certainly nowhere near in range of "mod supportive". It makes buying them a bad business decision because you are effectively pulling the most gimpish and utterly childish (because you honestly love saying it) decision while saying "buy it at my storefront or get out". People are more than allowed to voice their god damn opinion against that storefront and I diligaf at whatever pro argument you have to say about it. The storefront is gutter trash and PC gamers worldwide know this. Trying to spin it as if we are in the minority is completely insane, childish and disingenuous.

Obsidian isn't "ideal" for the MS "family", because MS has had a large history of shutting down studios and warping them and their IP's into something else. YOu think like a horrible mega corp exec that thinks buying everything is okay and that everything will "fit" under said "family". You don't actually look at this as an average consumer, because you are in fact one, not some greedy and mindless corp exec, but you're trying to come off as one with that spiel about "fitting in". 

MS is hardly a major "PC brand" these days besides having an OS that has no competition, as well as one that loves to grasp onto their EEE strategy. It's thanks to their EEE strategy that they've managed to come through this far.

You call it boycotting because it suits your anti argument, but I couldn't care less. I get to choose what I do with my own damn money, not you, you will never get to decide what I do with it and you shall live with that. I absolutely will look down on people like you because you think you can tell me where to shop and what I should buy with my money. I can spend my money where I want, when I want and I can support other companies without having to buy from another, which doesn't automatically fall under that childish tag you love using. 

The absorption quality actually subtracts from the general market, because one company is busy absorbing everything, but I guess you'd like it if Disney ran absolutely everything like MS would if given the chance. 

Valve actually tried with their storefront for years. They've had years on their own to advance the way they have and guess what?, MS has had many, many years to do the same and yet they haven't once decided to take a page from Steam's book at all. I've been watching that storefront since it arrived, and MS hasn't done much to improve it drastically the way Steam has over the years. You know damn well that given prior research and evidence, that you can improve upon an existing concept at a much faster rate vs not having anything to run off of. 

 

PS- Your opinion on this matter isn't needed here either, so take that and go for run.

Boycotting "withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest." That's exactly how you sound to me, and like I stated before, that's a "You Problem" 

Your fixated on MS ruining your gaming.. than don't buy there games or platforms. Its pretty simple, you seem to have other games you can go out and buy instead of Obsidian ones so good for you. Game how you want to, I personally would love to see Obsidian make a game with a good budget behind it weather its on Win10 or Steam so lets wait and see. 

Win10 store is a lot different to the past Windows stores so lets not try to pretend there the same thing.

EEE Strategy does not apply to this, this is a thread about MS buying a studio to help make games for there platforms not a buy out and shut down approach. Again its just a rumour and if its true than I guess you need to avoid Obsidian from now on because you cannot be seen supporting MS.

I think you have taken this thread a little too personal.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 13 August 2018

I remember the Kickstarter video for Pillars of Eternity, and how Obsidian was on the verge of bankruptcy (don't quote me on that), and that getting the support of gamers from around the world helped save their company. I would personally like to see them maintain their independence, as I like them, and would like to see them continue to grow.

If they do sell themselves to MS, then we just have to hope it doesn't affect the quality of their titles. I would hope that their games would continue to show up on Steam.



Azzanation said:

Boycotting "withdraw from commercial or social relations with (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest." That's exactly how you sound to me, and like I stated before, that's a "You Problem" 

Your fixated on MS ruining your gaming.. than don't buy there games or platforms. Its pretty simple, you seem to have other games you can go out and buy instead of Obsidian ones so good for you. Game how you want to, I personally would love to see Obsidian make a game with a good budget behind it weather its on Win10 or Steam so lets wait and see. 

Win10 store is a lot different to the past Windows stores so lets not try to pretend there the same thing.

EEE Strategy does not apply to this, this is a thread about MS buying a studio to help make games for there platforms not a buy out and shut down approach. Again its just a rumour and if its true than I guess you need to avoid Obsidian from now on because you cannot be seen supporting MS.

I think you have taken this thread a little too personal.

mmn, I'm sure it does, and those that simply aren't interested or those that just don't buy from MS fall under that rule, which should be, ooh I dunno, a few billion out there...

No, you're fixated on MS being a part of everything and everything being a part of MS. You don't seem to understand what a company does and has done in the past, but you are far, far more willing to look past any and all evidence just to spite someone who doesn't share your viewpoint.

I don't buy their games, that's been made evident by me buying games on Steam, Battle.net and GoG. I actually do have other games, but do not once mistake me having other games for me not wanting to criticize a company nor wanting my games I want to play being bought up as something I wouldn't talk about, because I absolutely will talk about those instances when a buyout arises.

Also, I've bought Obsidian games, so don't even dare act as if they are already owned by MS, let alone credited for "designing" said existing IP's, because I know that's how you are viewing them right now. I'd love to see Obsidian making good games for everyone else to play, not just on Xbox and definitely not locked behind the objectively crappy Win 10 storefront either. Hah, Steam, I know you'd prefer MS being behind the budget any day, so leave that "I care equally for both" behind the door. 

It's a store not the store, and in it's current form, it is still nowhere near on the scale or level of features that Steam and the other clients have. I don't have to pretend anything, but maybe you should stop pretending that the WIn 10 store is perfect or above what Steam and others offer. 

The EEE strategy applies to their way of life as a whole. Why make deals with the competition when you can "embrace it", followed by "extending towards claiming it", followed by "extinguishing them" (which others have actually pointed out within this very thread). DO not tell me for a moment that they have dropped a strategy made famous, that actually works, for something else entirely, because so far, it's been in effect for so many years. 

"guess you'll have to avoid Obsidian", yeah, I'll be supporting someone who hasn't sold their soul to a corp like MS, and guess what?, they'll be better off for getting support from someone else than MS. 

I think you take being challenged very personally, especially when it's in the name of MS. Not once have you dropped your guard against anyone and you absolutely refuse any and fall fault within your logic. I think you really need to get a good long hard look at yourself mate. 



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dx11332sega said:
Would be a win for Microsoft more needed exclusives for next gen . that'll make 10 first party studios if I'm correct?

Sounds about right, with the rumoured Obsidian that will take it to 11. A new look Xbox going into next gen head on. New Studios, New Talent, it will be exciting.

Keep in mind with this list, I might of missed some PC brands. 

343

Turn 10

Rare

Mojang

Coalition

The Initiative

Undead Labs

Playground Games

Compulsion Games

Ninja Theory

*Obsidian Entertainment



Azzanation said:
Azuren said:

If you want to define it that way, go ahead. Everyone else who are on the outside looking in will continue to see it for what it is. And honestly, given your love for Microsoft, you'd think your position would be to have more games for the MS Store and Xbox.

 

I guess you're more worried about defending MS than enjoying MS.

It seems that's exactly what you have defined it as. "MS just closes studios down" why else would you make such a comment? Why does it bother you if MS buys Obsidian if you don't think they will shut them down?

How exactly am I defending MS? That they plan on expanding there business? There's nothing to defend, there's no negative to it aside from the desperate that try to make this sound like a negative idea. I am just spouting the rumours nothing more.

I never defined it. I pointed out that MS has a tendency to close the studios they purchase. You're the one that assigned an agenda to it.

 

How exactly aren't you defending them? "MS only closes studios because reasons!" Pretty defensive in favor of MS to me.



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Azuren said:

I never defined it. I pointed out that MS has a tendency to close the studios they purchase. You're the one that assigned an agenda to it.

 

How exactly aren't you defending them? "MS only closes studios because reasons!" Pretty defensive in favor of MS to me.

Your logic applies to all companies, I don't see how this is just a MS business method. Rare is still around, so how does that prove your point? How does this thread even relate to closing down a new studio? Closing down studios is far from what this topic is about. Maybe someone should create a thread about MS and there Tendencies in closing studios. Because what you are saying is off topic.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 13 August 2018

Why has this turned into MS vs Sony is beyond me...neither are good fit, IMO.



cool if they could bring obsidian back to consoles for every release

if they get them i hope they give them a big budget and don't have them doing the type of rpg they are currently. i'd like to see them do something more in the style of kotor and f:nv. i have a feeling that is what ms would want too. the type of rpg they are making currently does not sell systems