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Sony first Party games sales, A huge leap from PS3 era. ( Entered Ninty Level ) Update: GOW at 10m & Uncharted 4 16M

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Wouldn't say it's on Nintendo's level considering they already have titles that have outsold these numbers in less than a year and a half since their latest platform released. As well as the amount of 1st party titles Nintendo releases is greater so there is more competition between 1st party titles on that platform and on the whole a greater combined total of all 1st party sales.

Don't let this detract from Sony's 1st party success though (only discussing it because it's apart of the threads topic), but it is clear they get their success from two different places. Nintendo mostly 1st party and Sony 3rd party.

pokoko said: 
zorg1000 said: 

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?

I hope not because that would be disingenuous.  If GTA 5 was exclusive to one platform, it's numbers on that one platform would be crazy.

Sony's not going to get any extra money if a game on PS4 does well on Xbox and PC though. So for this specific topic about a video game companies sales via their platform, it would be disingenuous to count sales Microsoft or Steam got for Sony.

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Having a Switch and PS4 is pretty much mandatory at this point. Unless of course you don't like good games.



Well... you are forgetting that sony's first party content had just barely surpassed the wii U in most cases.
The thing is, would ANY of these games sell as well as they did if the PS4 had a wii U level install base? the answer here is no. and that is why I cannot say sony's first party is even CLOSE to ninty level yet.
Sony's first party is the main scale tipper when it comes to ps4 vs xbone and is one of the main reasons for ps4 dominance, but its not in ninty level quite yet when just a SINGLE GAME can sell an entire console a la BOTW or melee did.



Sorry if doing double post.

Firstly the comparison is not to pit the two companies but rather to talk about how 1st party of Sony is doing great this generation. Ninty levels is for me a compliment. Ninty is consistently providing great contents and also it's reflecting with the sales and I am glad Sony's 1st party exclusive games are doing great with sales as well.

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from recent report from ninty.

  1. Super Mario Odyssey – 11.17 million
  2.     Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 10.35 million
  3.     The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 9.32 million (AFAIK WiiU not included could be 10-11M if it's included)
  4.     Splatoon 2 – 6.76 million
  5.     1-2 Switch – 2.45 million
  6.     ARMS – 2.01 million
  7.     Kirby: Star Allies – 1.89 million
  8.     Xenoblade Chronicles 2 – 1.42 million
  9.     Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze – 1.40 million
  10.     Mario Tennis Aces – 1.38 million
Stolen from resetera
 
 



NoCtiS_NoX said:
MasonADC said:
I wouldn't say they are on Nintendo's level just yet, but if they keep this up with the remainder of the generation and into the next, I could easily see it

Well they have yet to surpassed Nintendo but they already entered that level already with last of us and Uncharted and with GOd of War soon being another contender for best selling 1st party exclusive. 


I was thinking more about the Switch specificity. It took years for the ps4 to get a 10 million selling first party game, and now that it is at 80 million, it is reaching them more easily. That is still really good, but is nothing compared to what Mario Odyssey, MK8D, and soon Botw to do. I still think GOW will match these titles in the end, but I don't think they are at the same level.



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NoCtiS_NoX said: 
pokoko said:
Longer development time means less top level games in the same timeframe. That's an absolute boon to first party content. Less competition translates to higher average sales. This is why I'm convinced that Nintendo does not want "full" third-party support. Microsoft missed a golden opportunity by not being ready for this generation.

Sony's strategy to release throughout the year rather than focusing on the holidays, which largely take care of themselves with third-party offerings, is also beneficial. People can pretend that only the holiday season matters but releasing high-profile content when the competition level is low not only increases unit sales, it buoys the entire platform.

Well PS4 1st party games are doing just fine with almost 3rd party releasing a game for it.  

In all honesty, I'm much more impressed with a Last of Us or a Halo, which sell directly into the teeth of the competition.  Against full third-party support and with a rival platform in competition for the same market?  That's strength.  

Green098 said:
pokoko said: 

I hope not because that would be disingenuous.  If GTA 5 was exclusive to one platform, it's numbers on that one platform would be crazy.

Sony's not going to get any extra money if a game on PS4 does well on Xbox and PC though. So for this specific topic about a video game companies sales via their platform, it would be disingenuous to count sales Microsoft or Steam got for Sony.

I didn't count anything for Sony.  I didn't even mention Sony in that post.  I'm saying that if someone wants to talk about competing with GTA 5 then they're creating a false scenario by fragmenting the total sales.  It's an attempt to set up the playing field in their own favor.

If GTA 5 was an exclusive then no current first-party game could touch it.  It has no competition.  



Conina said:
Qwark said:
Spiderman is up next to join that list, which is great for Insomniac too

Insomniac is first party?

Insomniac isn’t, but Sony holds the rights to the Spiderman IP. So for all intents and purposes, Spider-Man is a first party game.

It’s basically the same situation as with Ratchet & Clank.



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pokoko said:
Green098 said:

Sony's not going to get any extra money if a game on PS4 does well on Xbox and PC though. So for this specific topic about a video game companies sales via their platform, it would be disingenuous to count sales Microsoft or Steam got for Sony.

I didn't count anything for Sony.  I didn't even mention Sony in that post.  I'm saying that if someone wants to talk about competing with GTA 5 then they're creating a false scenario by fragmenting the total sales.  It's an attempt to set up the playing field in their own favor.

If GTA 5 was an exclusive then no current first-party game could touch it.  It has no competition.  

I guess it was just a bit of confusion then. The thread topic is on Sony's sales on PS4 so even when talking about multiplatform titles, I assume where they were coming from was the idea discussion would be on what ever amount a title sold on PS4 and outside sales would therefore be irrelevant without specially pointing out that was the case.



Not quite Nintendo level but still very impressive considering the brand-agnosticism of the average Playstation gamer. Sony's games compete with huge third party titles over the buyers' wallet.



Nintendo like as you say but also like Microsoft last gen when they had halo which could do huge numbers at launch and lifetime. Now it's just Sony and Nintendo doing it.