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Sony first Party games sales, A huge leap from PS3 era. ( Entered Ninty Level ) Update: GOW at 10m & Uncharted 4 16M

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colafitte said:
Alkibiádēs said:

I wouldn't call Spiderman a first party game. They don't own the IP nor the studio who developed the game in question. 

And yes, great leap and very good sales for Sony this gen, but not quite Nintendo level. 

Spiderman is a full PS4 exclusive because the colaboration was between Marvel and Sony, and the latter then chose Insomniac to delevop the game. So yeah, it's not 1st party, but it's still an exclusive.

And why Sony with Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Horizon, God of War, Spiderman, is not quite at Nintendo level???. We are not discusing historic sales or how things were 10 o 20 years ago, we are talking right now. Those games are 10m+ sellers or are going to be soon and Ghosts of Tsushima, Days Gone and even Death Stranding could probably be close to those numbers too. How many  10m+ sellers does Nintendo have??, Super Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Pokemon, and after those, a level below, maybe Mario Party and Animal Crossing. I'm not saying Sony surpassed Nintendo, but it's very very close right now, so to me, it's a valid comparison. 

Because I fully believe Nintendo will have numerous 20M+ sellers on the Switch. Also Nintendo rarely discounts their games while Sony relies heavily on discounts to reach those numbers. 

Splatoon 2 will also sell 10M+ when all is said and done. 



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Alkibiádēs said: 

Because I fully believe Nintendo will have numerous 20M+ sellers on the Switch. Also Nintendo rarely discounts their games while Sony relies heavily on discounts to reach those numbers. 

Splatoon 2 will also sell 10M+ when all is said and done. 

You're right on Splatoon 2, I forgot about that game. But are you telling me that Nintendo games that reach 10-20 millions sales do it without bundles or discounts?? That's not true.

What games do you think will reach 20M+ on Switch? I can only think Mario Kart. I don't think a 3D sandbox Mario or Zelda will reach it. I'm not as convinced as others with Smash or Pokemon neither....but thet probably will reach 15m sales or close, so not bad at all.



Those game numbers are way higher than that.
Also, TLoU, their biggest success ever, was originally a PS3 game, so yeah, might want to take that out of the title lol.



Unfortunately the greatest PS4 exclusive, Bloodborne, only sold around 3 million. I wonder if less casual games will ever become dominant.



Eh, they're doing OK. I still say they should have doubled-down on Playstation Move and forced an upgraded version of it to be bundled with the PS4 at launch to sell to all the grannies that survived gen 7.



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Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?



pokoko said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?



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zorg1000 said:
pokoko said:

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?

I hope not because that would be disingenuous.  If GTA 5 was exclusive to one platform, it's numbers on that one platform would be crazy.



MasonADC said:
I wouldn't say they are on Nintendo's level just yet, but if they keep this up with the remainder of the generation and into the next, I could easily see it

Well they have yet to surpassed Nintendo but they already entered that level already with last of us and Uncharted and with GOd of War soon being another contender for best selling 1st party exclusive. 

pokoko said:
Longer development time means less top level games in the same timeframe. That's an absolute boon to first party content. Less competition translates to higher average sales. This is why I'm convinced that Nintendo does not want "full" third-party support. Microsoft missed a golden opportunity by not being ready for this generation.

Sony's strategy to release throughout the year rather than focusing on the holidays, which largely take care of themselves with third-party offerings, is also beneficial. People can pretend that only the holiday season matters but releasing high-profile content when the competition level is low not only increases unit sales, it buoys the entire platform.

Well PS4 1st party games are doing just fine with almost 3rd party releasing a game for it.  

RolStoppable said:
I take it, we are talking about Wii U level.

Found this on reset era. Surpassed WiiU already. 

BraLoD said:
Those game numbers are way higher than that.
Also, TLoU, their biggest success ever, was originally a PS3 game, so yeah, might want to take that out of the title lol.

I Know but Last of us was remastered for PS4 and continue it's legs. It's safe to say that if it reaches  20M sales, majority of those sales will be on PS4 hence my point being valid.