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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony first Party games sales, A huge leap from PS3 era. ( Entered Ninty Level ) Update: GOW at 10m & Uncharted 4 16M

Eh, they're doing OK. I still say they should have doubled-down on Playstation Move and forced an upgraded version of it to be bundled with the PS4 at launch to sell to all the grannies that survived gen 7.



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Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?



pokoko said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Sony always has a solid first party line-up.  The PS4 is not my personal favorite line-up (I prefer PS2), but I have to say that they still have a really solid first party line-up.

Are their first party games on Nintendo level?  Not even close.  When you start looking at the first party games Nintendo puts out, both in quantity and quality, Sony is not even close.  And that is the way it has always been.  Sony's first party line-up is solid.  Sony's first party line-up is always far better than Microsoft's first-party line-up.  But by the same token Nintendo's first party line-up is just far, far better than Sony's.

The games that Nintendo is competing against is Sony's third party line-up like GTA, CoD, etc....  The fact that the Switch can even sell comparably to PS4 shows how strong Nintendo first party really is.  It's strong enough to compete with PS4's best third party games.  Does anyone really think that the Last of Us is on the same level as GTA5?  Get real.  What would be more crippling for Sony?  Closing down Naughty Dog or having Rockstar become exclusive to another platform?   I think we all know the answer.

Let Sony's first-party lineup become as strong as it's third party line-up.  Then we can talk about their first party games being as good as Nintendo's.

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?



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zorg1000 said:
pokoko said:

Okay, I'll bite.  What recent Nintendo game is going to compete with GTA 5?

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?

I hope not because that would be disingenuous.  If GTA 5 was exclusive to one platform, it's numbers on that one platform would be crazy.



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MasonADC said:
I wouldn't say they are on Nintendo's level just yet, but if they keep this up with the remainder of the generation and into the next, I could easily see it

Well they have yet to surpassed Nintendo but they already entered that level already with last of us and Uncharted and with GOd of War soon being another contender for best selling 1st party exclusive. 

pokoko said:
Longer development time means less top level games in the same timeframe. That's an absolute boon to first party content. Less competition translates to higher average sales. This is why I'm convinced that Nintendo does not want "full" third-party support. Microsoft missed a golden opportunity by not being ready for this generation.

Sony's strategy to release throughout the year rather than focusing on the holidays, which largely take care of themselves with third-party offerings, is also beneficial. People can pretend that only the holiday season matters but releasing high-profile content when the competition level is low not only increases unit sales, it buoys the entire platform.

Well PS4 1st party games are doing just fine with almost 3rd party releasing a game for it.  

RolStoppable said:
I take it, we are talking about Wii U level.

Found this on reset era. Surpassed WiiU already. 

BraLoD said:
Those game numbers are way higher than that.
Also, TLoU, their biggest success ever, was originally a PS3 game, so yeah, might want to take that out of the title lol.

I Know but Last of us was remastered for PS4 and continue it's legs. It's safe to say that if it reaches  20M sales, majority of those sales will be on PS4 hence my point being valid.



Wouldn't say it's on Nintendo's level considering they already have titles that have outsold these numbers in less than a year and a half since their latest platform released. As well as the amount of 1st party titles Nintendo releases is greater so there is more competition between 1st party titles on that platform and on the whole a greater combined total of all 1st party sales.

Don't let this detract from Sony's 1st party success though (only discussing it because it's apart of the threads topic), but it is clear they get their success from two different places. Nintendo mostly 1st party and Sony 3rd party.

pokoko said: 
zorg1000 said: 

Isnt he specifically talking about 3rd party sales on PS4 rather than sales on all platforms?

I hope not because that would be disingenuous.  If GTA 5 was exclusive to one platform, it's numbers on that one platform would be crazy.

Sony's not going to get any extra money if a game on PS4 does well on Xbox and PC though. So for this specific topic about a video game companies sales via their platform, it would be disingenuous to count sales Microsoft or Steam got for Sony.

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Having a Switch and PS4 is pretty much mandatory at this point. Unless of course you don't like good games.



Well... you are forgetting that sony's first party content had just barely surpassed the wii U in most cases.
The thing is, would ANY of these games sell as well as they did if the PS4 had a wii U level install base? the answer here is no. and that is why I cannot say sony's first party is even CLOSE to ninty level yet.
Sony's first party is the main scale tipper when it comes to ps4 vs xbone and is one of the main reasons for ps4 dominance, but its not in ninty level quite yet when just a SINGLE GAME can sell an entire console a la BOTW or melee did.



Sorry if doing double post.

Firstly the comparison is not to pit the two companies but rather to talk about how 1st party of Sony is doing great this generation. Ninty levels is for me a compliment. Ninty is consistently providing great contents and also it's reflecting with the sales and I am glad Sony's 1st party exclusive games are doing great with sales as well.

Switch
from recent report from ninty.

  1. Super Mario Odyssey – 11.17 million
  2.     Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 10.35 million
  3.     The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 9.32 million (AFAIK WiiU not included could be 10-11M if it's included)
  4.     Splatoon 2 – 6.76 million
  5.     1-2 Switch – 2.45 million
  6.     ARMS – 2.01 million
  7.     Kirby: Star Allies – 1.89 million
  8.     Xenoblade Chronicles 2 – 1.42 million
  9.     Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze – 1.40 million
  10.     Mario Tennis Aces – 1.38 million
Stolen from resetera