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Super Smash Ultimate: Is Goku Actually a Possibility? Like Is it Really IMPOSSIBLE?

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Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
Mar1217 said:
No. Smash is a collection of gaming icons from Japan mostly.

Goku is an icon of the anime community first, not a video game icon.

This.

 

He still qualifies as a video game character.  Although for some reason I think Master Chief is a possibility now.  But only based on some recent good relations between MS and Nintendo in articles.  MS was visiting Japan I believe earlier this year with discussions, and who knows what all they were doing.



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tbone51 said:
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Goku's English VA confirmed he had not done any work for the game, nor has he been told he will. At the very least, he won't be in the main game.

That doesnt mean anything. And if he were a VA would he even announce he is doing the game? I mean he wasn't in ssb4 either and he did VA for lucario in ssbb

It means a lot more than you're willing to admit.



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I'd love Goku in Smash. I'd like Smash to move away from mostly Nintendo characters and more just gaming characters. I'm happy the newer Smash bros include lots of third party characters.



About the whole cloud thing, it wasn't as out of selection as you think. FF1~6 was a pretty big thing on nintendo consoles. it was just surprising that CLOUD became the FF rep because he never really had a presence on ninty, but FF, and SE as a whole has been a big presence on ninty consoles.



As others have stated, Goku's potential presence isn't as unprecedented as you probably think. "lol if goku gets in it opens the door for naruto/whatever-rando-who-cares anime crap". No. What other anime character has had a 30+ year history with Nintendo, and overall cultural relevance that transcends weeb stuff? Hell, that's more than a lot of the existing roster. Not to mention the aforementioned consideration of James Bond for the original Smash.

Bandai Namco Studios is co-developing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Why is this relevant? Because they are the actual company in charge of the Dragon Ball franchise.

There's plenty of fuel that would lead to his inclusion; to simply write it off as a meme or silly pipe dream is a grand assumption without knowing the facts.

Now, do I think he'll make the cut? Probably not. In fact, I'd bet he won't even be DLC. But don't act like this is Shrek or something. It is definitely within the realm of possibility. It's just a matter of whether Sakurai is willing to lift the technicality of characters not originating from video games.

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Xxain said:
Smash Bro's is a celebration of Nintendo's own IP's and third party choices that have some sort of relevance to Nintendo. Why the hell would Goku be in smash? What is his relevance to Nintendo?

Well his two most recent games are on Switch...so there's that.



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LMU Uncle Alfred said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

This.

 

He still qualifies as a video game character.  Although for some reason I think Master Chief is a possibility now.  But only based on some recent good relations between MS and Nintendo in articles.  MS was visiting Japan I believe earlier this year with discussions, and who knows what all they were doing.

I think Banjo and Kazooie or Conker would be before MC.



aiwass said:

As others have stated, Goku's potential presence isn't as unprecedented as you probably think. "lol if goku gets in it opens the door for naruto/whatever-rando-who-cares anime crap". No. What other anime character has had a 30+ year history with Nintendo, and overall cultural relevance that transcends weeb stuff? Hell, that's more than a lot of the existing roster. Not to mention the aforementioned consideration of James Bond for the original Smash.

Bandai Namco Studios is co-developing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Why is this relevant? Because they are the actual company in charge of the Dragon Ball franchise.

There's plenty of fuel that would lead to his inclusion; to simply write it off as a meme or silly pipe dream is a grand assumption without knowing the facts.

Now, do I think he'll make the cut? Probably not. In fact, I'd bet he won't even be DLC. But don't act like this is Shrek or something. It is definitely within the realm of possibility. It's just a matter of whether Sakurai is willing to lift the technicality of characters not originating from video games.

I'll argue that Naruto does. Naruto and Nintendo go way back even before the Storm series. But overall I agree, If Goku does get in its most likely to his influence and history more so than him being an anime character. Goku can be a possibility even if he isn't a video game character.



dragon ball fighting game is big right now...so it is still a possibility...

"he is an anime character"

"he is not relevant to nintendo"

yeah yeah.... if it gains enough traction sakurai wouldn't mind because it will generate buzz... as long as they get the rights to the character....


didn't a tv character negan end up in a fighting game? yeah nothing is impossible right now....


it is not like... here's goku in ssb... then people would be like... i dont like this game anymore... so yeah i still think it is a possibility... maybe not this gen, maybe in the future



 

I want to make clear I do NOT think Goku is possible. It would be too polarizing to devote one of the very, very few remaining possible character slots to an anime character. It would be possible to do in theory, more so than Shrek anyway, but not right now, definitely not. That said, in the spirit of this thread, here's an up and coming Smash Youtuber who's reasonably big in the Youtube Smash scene, reacting to the recent direct. At the end, he (jokingly, I believe) discusses the possibility of Goku in Smash Ultimate. His argument, summarized, is that the trailers seem to imply that if there is a story mode, there will be heroes and villains, and that therefore the trailers we've seen so far are actually from the story mode, and that therefore, Luigi, Mario, and Megaman are canonically dead. If they're dead, they'll need someone to resurrect them. Enter Goku. Also, that punch between K.Rool and DK looked like a straight up DBZ scene, and he makes the comparison between such a scene.

Discussion of hero and villain theme and possibility of Goku begins at 17:00, comparison of DK-K.Rool punch and Goku-Vegeta punch is at 18:40.

https://youtu.be/co5R5PjVKQc?t=16m58s