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Forums - Sony Discussion - PS4 official sell through numbers at 81.2 million consoles ending July 22, 2018

Train wreck said:
JRPGfan said:
So 50k-100k overtrack or something? meh close enough.

You can actually update your sig.  We know it took 227 days for the PS4 to sell 11.2 million units (70 million to 81.2 million).

That comes out to an average of 49.3k consoles a day during that time.  If we take the 1.2 million and divide by the average we get 24 days so it crossed 80 million in 203 days (of course we can't use this math due to seasonality of sales, but its a good stat)

On this large timeframe the seasonality is softned.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Shadow1980 said:

Last year the PS4 sold 7M units between Jan. 2 and June 11, a period of 160 days. That's an average of 43,750 units per day.

This year the PS4 sold 7.6M units between Jan. 1 and July 22, a period of 202 days. That's an average of 37,623 units per day.

It's hard to say with absolute certainty without any further context, but on a global basis the PS4 may be passing its peak. It's up by only about 6-7% YoY in the U.S. for the Jan.-June period (and all of that is thanks to the God of War boost), it's barely up YoY in Japan in YTD sales (the big Monster Hunter boost helped keep 2018 ahead of 2017 for a while, but now it's on the verge of falling behind). If VGC isn't too far off the mark, then the PS4 is down YoY in Europe for the year so far.

I think this year will probably end slightly down from 2017 (with LTD sales at around the 90M mark by New Year's Day), and we'll see more pronounced drops in 2019. That being the case, we can probably expect an official PS5 announcement some time in 2020, with a release date probably in November of that year. That could be pushed to 2021 if PS4 Pro price cuts help diminish the rate of decline in sales and produce a slower post-peak drop.

Even Sony talks about it, FY18 forecast is lower than FY17



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

So that means the PS4 has to sell 12.6 million consoles between July 23rd December 31st to catch up to last year. I thinks it's doable, cause this holiday there is Spiderman, Red Dead II, Black Ops 4, Fallout 76, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Battlefield V and more coming.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:
So that means the PS4 has to sell 12.6 million consoles between July 23rd December 31st to catch up to last year. I thinks it's doable, cause this holiday there is Spiderman, Red Dead II, Black Ops 4, Fallout 76, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Battlefield V and more coming.

Sony projection is to be bellow last year.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:
So that means the PS4 has to sell 12.6 million consoles between July 23rd December 31st to catch up to last year. I thinks it's doable, cause this holiday there is Spiderman, Red Dead II, Black Ops 4, Fallout 76, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Battlefield V and more coming.

Sony projection is to be bellow last year.

I think they are lowballing. First they predicted 16M, but then upped it to 17M. Chances are it's gonna happen again, IMO.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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Shadow1980 said:

Last year the PS4 sold 7M units between Jan. 2 and June 11, a period of 160 days. That's an average of 43,750 units per day.

This year the PS4 sold 7.6M units between Jan. 1 and July 22, a period of 202 days. That's an average of 37,623 units per day.

It's hard to say with absolute certainty without any further context, but on a global basis the PS4 may be passing its peak. It's up by only about 6-7% YoY in the U.S. for the Jan.-June period (and all of that is thanks to the God of War boost), it's barely up YoY in Japan in YTD sales (the big Monster Hunter boost helped keep 2018 ahead of 2017 for a while, but now it's on the verge of falling behind). If VGC isn't too far off the mark, then the PS4 is down YoY in Europe for the year so far.

I think this year will probably end slightly down from 2017 (with LTD sales at around the 90M mark by New Year's Day), and we'll see more pronounced drops in 2019. That being the case, we can probably expect an official PS5 announcement some time in 2020, with a release date probably in November of that year. That could be pushed to 2021 if PS4 Pro price cuts help diminish the rate of decline in sales and produce a slower post-peak drop.

I suppose rdr2 and spiderman will help this year. After that it's the usual battlefield  cod, fifa lark that won't boost massively. Fortnite should move some units this holiday too. 

 

Overall the year has had many big hitters like monster Hunter, fortnite and god of war. I can see why Sony didn't price cut yet. The line up is able to keep sales high despite high price. 

 

I reckon we get over 90m this year and then next summer we hit 100m. 



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flashfire926 said:
So that means the PS4 has to sell 12.6 million consoles between July 23rd December 31st to catch up to last year. I thinks it's doable, cause this holiday there is Spiderman, Red Dead II, Black Ops 4, Fallout 76, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Battlefield V and more coming.

Thats interesting. Maybe the best chrismas-time is coming (sales figures) ?! Red Dead Redemption 2 and Spiderman are DAY 1 for me :)



barneystinson69 said:

Vgchartz tracking was pretty good on this one. Congrats to the PS4... now give us some fucking numbers Microsoft!!!

I'm sure they're quite fine with X1 being heavily overtracked on here.



Could havebeen much more if sony just dropped the price,299way to expensive in its 5th year.



 

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