collint0101 said:
DonFerrari said:
When you see the amount of transexual that reverse the surgery, or later decide they are transpecies, the much higher rate of suicide you can see that there is some room to investigate mental disorder.
But you totally gone sideways to avoid acknowledging the amount of victimization done by left wing when any failure is quickly justified with "it's because I'm black, gay, woman, etc" never because the person wasn't good enough for what he was trying.
Because it doesn't matter what you do, but who you are and why you are doing... when you are left wing and you hate and destroy it's with love.
Seems like his point flow over your head over 30000ft and 700mph.
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Because the right has never hated or destroyed anything. The modern right is really entrenched in this idea that nothing bad as ever come from conservative ideology
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Have I ever said there aren't bad people on the right or that they haven't made bad things?
You just again avoided all point just to not acknowledge it.
collint0101 said:
o_O.Q said:
"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce"
uh so what is suppression of opposition, government control of economy etc etc etc called on the leftist side in your view?
with your definition it kind of seems like this fascism thing doesn't really exist at all... so what the hell are those antifa people fighting?
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Even in your heavily simplified definition it still mentions nationalism. Nationalism isn't left wing, you could even go as far to argue that hardline communist are anti nationalism. Even then that ignores the fact that racial superioriy is not Marxist and the strong ties between businessmen and the Nazi party which is super not Marxist. It's always been said that once you start looking at the extremes of both sides everything wraps back around and looks pretty similar but at the same time lumping fascism in with leftist ideology simply isn't correct.
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Yes Let's Ignore Karl Marx, Che Guevara and Fidel Castro who are very highly looked after examples of left wing were anti-jew, anti-black and anti-gay to show how much tolerance, lack of biggotry, racial equality they had right?
One of the biggest things left wing go is group identity and segregation of society with fight among groups.
CosmicSex said:
GOWTLOZ said:
Funny because Antifa IS garbage, so they must be throwing themselves on conservatives.
Anyone defending this is garbage as well.
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As OdinHades already stated:
"Antifa is that it's not an organization but simply a movement. Anyone can walk around with an Antifa logo. There's no hierarchy or anything. You can kinda compare it to anonymous. And yes, there are some gigantic idiots and assholes among those people with an Antifa flag. But the vast majority of Antifa acts peacefully. The problem is that you will never hear news about peaceful protests, because nobody gives a shit about that. "
Please be aware of how groupthought warps your perception of reality. Elevate your thinking for a minute because too often when people make comments on articles or stoies, there reactions are not real and informed, They are simply regurgitations of someone's idea of what YOU should think.
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I'll ask you the same I asked others here. Please present all the heavily antagonization of the Antifas against this and other acts of violence, can be facebook, news, etc.
What mostly we will see is coverage and defense of it as a fight against the power.
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:
Aeolus451 said:
😂 FML That shit is funny. That's just a slogan for anyone gullible enough to believe that. It's as true as NK being a democracy. They are left wing because they believe in and follow communism to some degree. Antifa doesn't act like they believe in tolerance and freedom. A good bit of the left doesn't seem that tolerant of people who disagree with them or diversity of the mind. Maxine Waters doesn't look like she believes in those things either. Recently, they voted to remove Trump's Hollywood star off the street. Very tolerate.
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Could you then tell me what anti-tolerance/anti-freedom policies does the left promote? And like I said, that "They are racists because they don't let me be racist" argument is one of the most idiotict and hypocritical arguments you can make. "Voted to remove Trump's Hollowood star". Do you think that has anything to do with the fact that Trump doesn't promote tolerance? They want to tighten gun control. How big of a "crime against humanity" do you think that is? The only differance between facism and communism in they way they have been implemented is how they treat private business/property. They don't have anything to do with tolerance and freedom, and neither doesn't far-right. Far-right is actually leaning more towards communism than majority of the left with their anti-globalism and "support only domestic companies".
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Marx being anti-jew, Che Guevara being anti-black and anti-gay, Fidel Castro being anti-gay are enough show of anti-tolerance?
All the socialist/communist governments prohibiting its citizen from leaving the country and silencing the media is enough show of anti-freedom?
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:
potato_hamster said:
So you want to argue that Communism isn't a left-wing ideology because how authoritarian it is?
Best of luck with that.
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The only differance between facism and communism in they way they have been implemented is how they treat private business/property. They don't have anything to do with tolerance and freedom, and neither doesn't far-right. On the other hand tolerance and freedom are the core values of the left. Or don't you agree? I wasn't sure if your comment suggested that. Far-right is actually leaning more towards communism than majority of the left with their anti-globalism and "support only domestic companies".
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Yes, let's just forget who really owns and profit from the "public" business/property on those communist countries right?
