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DonFerrari said:
DélioPT said:

 

The problem is that the follow you dream mentality is exactly one of exageration used together with "against all odds".

I do agree that people have to realize their potential, improve on it and make it a spring for their personal success, but that isn't as catchy (and ill-based) than "follow your dream".

If you can't achieve everything, them a lot these dreams aren't achievable and thus for, the very "follow your dream" is also false.

As OP put, if you like something, sure go for it, do and enjoy. But don't be entrapped by "follow your dream" and aiming for the basically impossible.

The "follow your dreams" mentality - as you put it - is not an exaggeration. It's just a state of mind in which you focus on something.
There are no promises in said state of mind. There no garantees. And if you fail, doesn't mean the mantra was wrong, it just means that you tried (the very purpose of such a mentaility) and did not succeed.

I agree that you shouldn't be blind to the world around you. That's why i said "It's those who follow their dreams that must be aware of their own limitations."

To me, the whole point is encouraging one self or others to go after something; to try. That's it. With full consciousness of what it implies going after something, of course.



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I think you're taking things a bit out of context here, the's nothing wrong with the advice itself as it's a way of encouraging people to try their hardest many of the most successful people did just that. Following your dreams doesn't just mean getting tunnel vision on one goal like some people here are saying it's more telling people to have a certain mentality.

If your mindset is yeah but Taylor Swift was born with a good voice then of course you're going to stay down at a certain level mean while some mumble rapper whose voice is worse than your own goes on to make it rich so that argument isn't the best.



DélioPT said:
DonFerrari said:

The problem is that the follow you dream mentality is exactly one of exageration used together with "against all odds".

I do agree that people have to realize their potential, improve on it and make it a spring for their personal success, but that isn't as catchy (and ill-based) than "follow your dream".

If you can't achieve everything, them a lot these dreams aren't achievable and thus for, the very "follow your dream" is also false.

As OP put, if you like something, sure go for it, do and enjoy. But don't be entrapped by "follow your dream" and aiming for the basically impossible.

The "follow your dreams" mentality - as you put it - is not an exaggeration. It's just a state of mind in which you focus on something.
There are no promises in said state of mind. There no garantees. And if you fail, doesn't mean the mantra was wrong, it just means that you tried (the very purpose of such a mentaility) and did not succeed.

I agree that you shouldn't be blind to the world around you. That's why i said "It's those who follow their dreams that must be aware of their own limitations."

To me, the whole point is encouraging one self or others to go after something; to try. That's it. With full consciousness of what it implies going after something, of course.

Ever saw these people preaching "follow your dreams, but only if they are feasible and you have the talent to achieve it"? Nope, they usually put in a way that you just have to believe and work hard for it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kyuu said:

It annoys me a little when celebrities preach such simplistic bullshit as if pure efforts got them there, and I do believe that in most cases, luck decides your status in the petty society and how far you'll make it to achieving your dreams. But... there are "heroes" among us who stand to defy these fatalistic elements and prove that with enough effort and confidence, a miracle can be made sometimes. Those untalented/unfortunate of us who would dig out a thousand excuses to justify their mediocrity in life aren't necessarily any better than proud pretentious achievers who received their talents on a silver platter.

The people that I respect and inspire me the most are those who attempt to confront their misfortunes, and the lucky ones who acknowledge their luck and instead of opening their mouths throwing empty platitudes, would use their fortunes to help building a better and fairer environment for the communities that need it.


I've been watching some Tekken videos lately and came across this hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNuXW4VQpCI

I ended up with mixed feelings of admiration, hope, and... self-loathing lol.

Yep I agree with the ideas of your post.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dreams are for naive kids. Kids grow up and face cold hard reality. Life is not a Hollywood movie.



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DonFerrari said:
DélioPT said:

 

Ever saw these people preaching "follow your dreams, but only if they are feasible and you have the talent to achieve it"? Nope, they usually put in a way that you just have to believe and work hard for it.

Honestly, that's not how i have seen people say it.
When i hear people say that line, and only that line, it's said in a way to encourage others.

I really can't remembre it being said in another way - a way that implies that you can achieve it all.
Maybe that's me.



I disagree. I think you should follow your dreams, just have a Plan B in case it doesn't work out.

Just be smart about it. For example if you want to be a DJ or something, you can still do that, just maybe do it on the weekends or on your off time, in between your normal job and other responsibilities.  Just don't pour absolutely EVERYTHING into being a DJ to the point where you're buying new equipment instead of paying your rent.

Work on your craft and improve your skills. Then maybe one day that big break you've been waiting for will come along. And you'll be ready for it, instead of kicking yourself wishing you had worked more on improving your skills.

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DonFerrari said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Someone needs to watch naruto

Naruto was son of 4th Kage and also from one of the original clans. Had Half the power of the most powerful monster inside himself. Is the protagonist, etc... nope, he already had all the requisite to make his dream come true. Why don't we ask about all the other who wanted to be Kage but were just worthless? They followed their dream and nothing.

What about Rock Lee?  He had no talent whatsoever and still became a mighty warrior through sheer hard work and effort!



DélioPT said:
DonFerrari said:

Ever saw these people preaching "follow your dreams, but only if they are feasible and you have the talent to achieve it"? Nope, they usually put in a way that you just have to believe and work hard for it.

Honestly, that's not how i have seen people say it.
When i hear people say that line, and only that line, it's said in a way to encourage others.

I really can't remembre it being said in another way - a way that implies that you can achieve it all.
Maybe that's me.

It's not just about how it's said, it's where and when as well. Not always, but quite often, it's on the red carpet or on a stage, part of some big time event, looked upon as a major achievement, where people's minds can be misguided into thinking what they are hearing, as well as what they are seeing, are directly linked. This is a problem. All it would take is another sentence to make it perfectly clear, but that could lead to the initial phrase losing it's glorified meaning. 

Some people can read between the lines, due to their intelligence or life experience, but many cannot. This is why it's important that people (kids) are taught to think outside the box, like questioning things that don't make complete sense, and not simply eating what they are fed. You don't need to "bite the hand that feeds you", but you should immediately be asking what's in the food if it doesn't taste right.



Paperboy_J said:

I disagree. I think you should follow your dreams, just have a Plan B in case it doesn't work out.

Agreed. Or you can take other approaches like somehow combining your dream and the safer route or, like you say, slowly but working with a lot of commitment towards your wishes. So rather than "following one's dreams", I think it's more about "carrying your dreams with you", working hard for accomplishing one objective but never closing other possibilities of which you can become passionate as well. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first.