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Forums - Sales Discussion - Q1 Software: PS4: 40.6M*; 43% digital (17.46M)... NSW: 17.96M**

DonFerrari on 02 August 2018
SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

And Switch being less time and thus the new entrants being more representative to the overall number of owners will make the sales of SW skew to Switch on that quarter because usually someone buying the console will also buy more SW (about 4 if I'm not wrong).

So one way or another you'll be skewing the number in favor of the platform that have more time in market or less (if both are being healthy). See why the need to counter?

This is why I don't like comparing tie ratios until after both consoles have left the market.  Then you can measure the ratio and the average software bought per owner per month and other metrics.

But while both are still selling and with such a difference in release data and install base, it just makes for a horrible metric to compare.  However, if you can get like for like data for equal time points, then you can compare but that's very difficult to get...accurately.

SO let's agree that both systems are having very good sales of system and software and that some comparisons are hard to be accurate =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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psychicscubadiver on 02 August 2018
DonFerrari said:
psychicscubadiver said:

He was talking about tie-in ratios for the quarter, not overall.

Of course PS4 will have a higher tie-in overall, it's been on the market for three or four times as long.

And Switch being less time and thus the new entrants being more representative to the overall number of owners will make the sales of SW skew to Switch on that quarter because usually someone buying the console will also buy more SW (about 4 if I'm not wrong).

So one way or another you'll be skewing the number in favor of the platform that have more time in market or less (if both are being healthy). See why the need to counter?

The PS4 also sold more hardware units this quarter so by your own logic shouldn't it have a higher software tie-in ratio than the Switch?

I'm not skewing the numbers in any fashion. I'm just referring to what happened this quarter.



DonFerrari on 02 August 2018
psychicscubadiver said:
DonFerrari said:

And Switch being less time and thus the new entrants being more representative to the overall number of owners will make the sales of SW skew to Switch on that quarter because usually someone buying the console will also buy more SW (about 4 if I'm not wrong).

So one way or another you'll be skewing the number in favor of the platform that have more time in market or less (if both are being healthy). See why the need to counter?

The PS4 also sold more hardware units this quarter so by your own logic shouldn't it have a higher software tie-in ratio than the Switch?

I'm not skewing the numbers in any fashion. I'm just referring to what happened this quarter.

PS4 sold 3.2M HW and 40.6M SW

Switch sold 1.9M HW (not sure) and 18M SW.

PS4 sold more than double SW than Switch without selling double HW.

The point the other guy made was PS4 have 80M sold and this quarter sold 40M SW, so "every user bought 0.5 games" while Switch have sold 20M and this quarter had 18M SW so almost 1 SW per HW. And that is where my point comes from. the 3.2M HW sold by PS4 is 8% increase on install base on the Q, while Switch 1.8M is 10% increase and having each of the 3.2M HW selling 4 SW amounts to 12.8M (leaving 28M to be bought by older owners) while 1.8M HW selling 4 SW amounts to 7.2M (leaving only 10M to be sold by older owners).

Switch being a younger platform will have a smaller total tie ratio, but shall as well have a higher growth on its tie ratio plus new SW sold per HW.

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

SO let's agree that both systems are having very good sales of system and software and that some comparisons are hard to be accurate =]

Completely agreed. There is zero reason or validation for any negative statements regarding the hardware or software sales of PS4 or Switch.  Both are doing great.

Yep. And the biggest criticism that could be 3rd party is improving continuously for Switch. It may hit critical mass that even new demanding games will be worth to be "redone" to have good performance on Switch and release faster.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ruggarell on 02 August 2018

Love how PS4 just stomped out everything from release year until now lmao. It will be here for another 5 years easily. Love the library that it has developed over the years I've had a great time so far and added many to my favorite games in my collection.