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Which upcoming fighter(s), if any, are you going to pick up?

Buying SC6, not buying DOA6 14 24.56%
 
Buying SC6 and possibly DOA6 8 14.04%
 
Buying DOA6, not buying SC6 2 3.51%
 
Buying DOA6 and possibly SC6 4 7.02%
 
Both 9 15.79%
 
Neither 20 35.09%
 
Total:57

Getting Soul Calibur 6 for sure, but unlikely to get DoA6 with how the developers are treating their fans.



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pokoko said:
Anyone else think the anti-SJW people are just as bad as the SJW people when it comes to manufactured outrage? They're like mirror images of one another.

Not even close. This shit ain't the exception, either, it's the fucking rule with these lunatics, trying to get someone to kill themselves for refusing to shoot with a gay porn actor or even just for drawing fucking PICTURES (and succeeding in the case of the former) and doxxing and trying to get people fired from their jobs and celebrating afterwards (they even celebrated when they got August Ames to kill herself FFS). Oh, and celebrating the death of TotalBiscuit and comparing him to Hitler simply for being a proponent of GamerGate (skip to 5:36):

   

These SJW loonies are worse than the Westboro Fascist Church, and that's saying a lot. And the funny thing is, the people they claim to be advocating for (women, duh) don't give a shit about being "objectified" in games, comics/manga, movies, TV shows, etc.: 

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Neither, as I'm not really that much into fighting games anymore. They all more or less blur together and haven't evolved as much as other genres have, while also maintaining that artificial need for making button prompts and inputs overly complicated for high level players to beat out the low levels.



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I have preordered SC6, and I have no problems ignoring DOA6.



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I can buy one fighting game per generation and it'll last me until I buy another one on the following generation. It's looking like this generation of consoles it'll be Soul Calibur VI. The only time I remember buying two was for the Dreamcast, where I got Dead or Alive 2 and Soul Calibur.



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KManX89 said:
pokoko said:
Anyone else think the anti-SJW people are just as bad as the SJW people when it comes to manufactured outrage? They're like mirror images of one another.

Not even close. This shit ain't the exception, either, it's the fucking rule with these lunatics, trying to get someone to kill themselves for refusing to shoot with a gay porn actor or even just for drawing fucking PICTURES (and succeeding in the case of the former) and doxxing and trying to get people fired from their jobs and celebrating afterwards (they even celebrated when they got August Ames to kill herself FFS). Oh, and celebrating the death of TotalBiscuit and comparing him to Hitler simply for being a proponent of GamerGate (skip to 5:36):

   

These SJW loonies are worse than the Westboro Fascist Church, and that's saying a lot. And the funny thing is, the people they claim to be advocating for (women, duh) don't give a shit about being "objectified" in games, comics/manga, movies, TV shows, etc.: 

The actor is bisexual.  There was a recent study that 75% off all male performers in the adult industry are bisexual.  August Ames also had other mental issues so her doing porn for a living wasn't exactly the best way to earn a living.



SC6 actually makes me want to play the franchise for the first time. DoA 6 not so much. Also Kasumi new design is terrible. So damn lazy.

Chris Hu said:
KManX89 said:

Not even close. This shit ain't the exception, either, it's the fucking rule with these lunatics, trying to get someone to kill themselves for refusing to shoot with a gay porn actor or even just for drawing fucking PICTURES (and succeeding in the case of the former) and doxxing and trying to get people fired from their jobs and celebrating afterwards (they even celebrated when they got August Ames to kill herself FFS). Oh, and celebrating the death of TotalBiscuit and comparing him to Hitler simply for being a proponent of GamerGate (skip to 5:36):

   

These SJW loonies are worse than the Westboro Fascist Church, and that's saying a lot. And the funny thing is, the people they claim to be advocating for (women, duh) don't give a shit about being "objectified" in games, comics/manga, movies, TV shows, etc.: 

The actor is bisexual.  There was a recent study that 75% off all male performers in the adult industry are bisexual.  August Ames also had other mental issues so her doing porn for a living wasn't exactly the best way to earn a living.

Don't know if you're joking but if that's true that's really interesting.



Xxain said:
Wait.

They tuned the females of DoA6 into cool characters and less sex objects.. and that's a bad thing? I dont care about SJW's, but your viewpoint is pretty shitty as well. Also, that article you linked. Shove it. It is a totally biased. The Director stated that the breast of the female characters will match their body types, not every female having cup sizes 3x the body size.

Your implication that they couldn't be cool before and seeing them as only sex objects says more about you than anything else, honestly. Regardless of their marketing and approach with the game, the developers themselves saying this very thing - that they were only sex dolls before and not characters - is hugely offensive to anyone who has enjoyed the games for the last 15 years, anyone who has worked on the games for the last 15 years and honestly, offensive to their entire company itself.

Implying that women can only be cool characters if they aren't sexy is extremely toxic, and pissing on your fans is absolutely terrible. Maybe DoA6 will end up being a good game, but their treatment of fans will hurt it regardless of its quality.



Well actually I was wrong about there being a study about it.   Kelly Divine said in a interview that she thinks that 75% of male performer are bisexual.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBuT-PQOTZY

 

So the numbers are probably not that high but I'm guessing the number could easily be over 50%.  Peter North is one of the best known male porn stars and he started out in gay porn before switching to only doing straight porn.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Xxain said:
Wait.

They tuned the females of DoA6 into cool characters and less sex objects.. and that's a bad thing? I dont care about SJW's, but your viewpoint is pretty shitty as well. Also, that article you linked. Shove it. It is a totally biased. The Director stated that the breast of the female characters will match their body types, not every female having cup sizes 3x the body size.

Your implication that they couldn't be cool before and seeing them as only sex objects says more about you than anything else, honestly. Regardless of their marketing and approach with the game, the developers themselves saying this very thing - that they were only sex dolls before and not characters - is hugely offensive to anyone who has enjoyed the games for the last 15 years, anyone who has worked on the games for the last 15 years and honestly, offensive to their entire company itself.

Implying that women can only be cool characters if they aren't sexy is extremely toxic, and pissing on your fans is absolutely terrible. Maybe DoA6 will end up being a good game, but their treatment of fans will hurt it regardless of its quality.

There is no personal viewpoint from me on the subject. I cannot be implying anything.

2nd batch of bolded - Let's be clear here: You finding an attachment to the characters beyond being sex dolls, does not make them not sex dolls. Did you know that Itagaki said that the cast was made to be sexy because it was needed to be entertaining? That's not shallow right? I believe during DoA2/or beach volleyball he said he wanted men to be able play with the women of their dreams. That is from the creator!

3rd bolded batch - Call to emotion is the worst argumentative stance to ever take because it produces stuff like this. You are sooo totally blinded. No one is claiming that sexy women(or men) cannot be cool, hell, if anything this industry has pushed the contrary for decades (that's toxic). They have the decided to emphasize the coolness of the females  over the sexy. Dead or Alive has always had the moniker of the "softcore porn fighting  game" and they are working to shed that image. Did you that the competitive fighting scene in Japan does not take Dead or Alive seriously? Did you that a lot of the changes to the females were done the request of Japanese gamers who felt embarrassed while playing it in the arcades? So what "fans" are they pissing on? Otaku basement dwellers? It does not matter what side of the world you are on; consumers have outgrown the softcore elements of the series.

stop using the word "implying". I don't think you know how to use it.