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Biggerboat1 said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"As you've demonstrated by not knowing one of the simplest things about this country. Now imagine millions and millions of people as uneducated as your are about ourgovernment directly voting on things?"

I can:

What are you trying to accomplish with this post? It doesn't seem in any way constructive.

I think the initial poster you are alluding to is a tad over the top when it comes to his Trump comments but just outright insulting him doesn't benefit anyone... Apart from maybe making you feel superior..?

This is especially rich coming from someone who has already suggested that another user be banned for generalising earlier in this very thread.

EDIT:

Also, if you want to look at education levels in the context of the election, then Trump doesn't fare too well...

 

"Trump voters have low education levels."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865681319/7-surprising-graphics-about-Trump-voters.html

 

"In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

"What are you trying to accomplish with this post? It doesn't seem in any way constructive."

i'm commenting on the danger that true democracy results in for a nation... we have examples like the soviet union, for example

 

"This is especially rich coming from someone who has already suggested that another user be banned for generalising earlier in this very thread."

he didn't generalise, he explicitly associated me with the right

and i am as far as you can get from the right without going to the left

 

"Trump voters have low education levels."

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865681319/7-surprising-graphics-about-Trump-voters.html"

"In the 2016 election, a wide gap in presidential preferences emerged between those with and without a college degree. College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin (52%-43%), while those without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44%. This is by far the widest gap in support among college graduates and non-college graduates in exit polls dating back to 1980."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/"

you post this, to make what point? that people who don't have a degree should not be able to vote?



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More dictatorial behaviour from the so wishful called leader of the "free" world.



o_O.Q said:
SpokenTruth said:

1). You talk of me being slanderous and then you slander?

2). Slander requires that I specify someone and that it damages their reputation. I did not say o_O.Q is a member of the right wing nor do my posts here have any bearing on your reputation.

3). That doesn't answer my question.  How does supporting not banning of a news reporter equate to supporting being able to invade a home for information?

4). Alex Jones does not have White House or Congressional media credentials. And demanding an interview is not the same thing as covering a press conference.

"That doesn't answer my question.  How does supporting not banning of a news reporter equate to supporting being able to invade a home for information?"

it shows a clear disregard for boundaries

i used the privacy of the home as a metaphor

 

"Alex Jones does not have White House or Congressional media credentials"

actually he does : https://www.businessinsider.com/infowars-granted-white-house-press-credentials-2017-5

he's more deserving of them when compared to CNN and that's saying something

Boundaries?  For what?  It's a press conference at the Rose Garden right outside the Oval Office.  It's not in his bathroom.  Nor are boundaries or privacy an issue given that dozens of others will also be there.

Also, I just learned the reporter was banned by Bill Shine, the White House deputy chief of staff for communications and....former co-president of Fox News.  Hmmmmm.

 

And no, Alex Jones, does not have White House or Congressional media credentials.  He was given a day pass to attend an event and then bragged all over Twitter like he got permanent credentials.  Did you even read your own link?

"Far-right website InfoWars was granted temporary White House press credentials on Monday"
"The outlet was reportedly granted only day-long press credentials, which are far easier to receive and viewed as less prestigious than a permanent pass."

"“He is not credentialed for the White House. The White House Press Office has not offered him credentials,” White House deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/334583-questions-surround-infowars-claim-of-white-house-press-credentials



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

coolbeans said:

Machiavellian said:

We see this in these threads all the time.  Its like the people who post the links do not actually expect people to read them.  Its the same with the videos they post where you can clearly see them being edited, cut short or do not include the question or follow up questions.  Its a very old tactic when providing misinformation and Trump uses it a lot.  You throw out a video and some links without context hoping no one actually view or read them.

Now I'm just really, really curious how much of this comment relies on his interpretation of said links, and not actually reading them & considering what I'm trying to highlight.

So lets take your first Link.  What is Obama actually taking aim at.  As stated within the text, is Fox operating as entertainment or as a news agency.  By Fox News own admission, they are an entertainment network.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/04/01/fox-news-for-entertainment-purposes-only-disclaimer_n_15727044.html

So, what is it.  Are they actually a news agency or entertainment and if they are entertainment, how should their news network be viewed.

On the second link, its even more interesting when you read the whole email thread on the subject.  So when the White House first reached out for the interview, only NBC, ABC and CBS was included.  Guess who was not included first.  CNN and FOX.  It was only when someone noticed that FOX was not included that it raised to this level.  I will say on this one that you can make a point that Obama administration probably never going to have FOX news as the first source for any interview but no where do you see then actually banning someone from the network or from events.  Even so, you never seen them accuse any news agency as enemy of the people etc.

As for the third link you made, well, the guy did not have the right credentials so basically a non issue on that one

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/06/free-beacon-plays-state-theater-in-vienna-209686

 



Errorist76 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Ahh.. So I guess THIS is now the issue everyone's gonna blow completely out of proportion and lose their shit over, until next week when Trump sneezes on a foreign leader, then everyone will completely forget about this and rant about that, claiming it to be the Apocalypse or the second coming of Hitler. Remember that children in cages thing? The Putin thing? Seems like ages ago already, doesn't it? That's because everybody already forgot about it and moved on to the next thing, essentially - what the media instructs everyone to focus on and be mad at now..

Just so damn sick of the Trump hysteria, day after day, week after freaking week, and every week it's something else. I think I might have to filter out political threads here. I get enough Trump hysteria and propaganda shoved down my throat on practically a daily basis as is. I kinda come here to escape that crap..

Ignorance is bliss I guess. It’s a testament to these dark times if some people prefer to look away just because they’re already used to these atrocities. 

Oh please.. Lol dark times. Come off it.. We live in what's probably BY FAR the most privileged, prosperous, free, equal, and comfortable times in the entire history of human civilization (assuming you live in the West and aren't homeless or of the poorest 10%). We have it 1000x better than even kings had it 200 years ago. Of course things aren't perfect but we'll never have an absolute perfect Utopia because we are all flawed beings.

We are not living anywhere NEAR "dark times." The middle ages were "dark times," when 2 thirds of Europe's population was wiped away from the Plague. WWII was dark times for a good chunk of the world, as you had 3 Fascist and Communist dictators (Hitler, Stalin, Musolini) who together brought mass destruction and death to like 60 million people combined. I don't get what it is about people that they love to feel that they're living in the era of "end times" whether it's the Evangelical Christians, or the sensationalist media lapdogs, or whoever.. I guess it makes people feel like their lives are more exciting rather than just being another cog in the machine..

Trump is not a "Fascist", a "dictator" "Satan" or "literally Hitler" as some of the media lapdogs proclaim (sure he's an egotistical right winger with Authoritarian tendencies but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near Fascist). This is pure hyperbole fueled by a media system that thrives on ratings. It's like saying Obama (because he's somewhat authoritarian left) is a socialist or that Bernie Sanders is a communist). A president doesn't have that much power in the US, firstly. Our system is designed to make it that way. I promise you, most of the real power structure pulling the strings are the same guys who were in power when Obama, Bush, and Clinton were president.

Just boggles my mind how so many get swept up in this fake media hype. The media is owned (and/or indirectly influenced via advertising) by large, often multi billion dollar corporations with billionaire CEOs at the top who obviously have vested interests and agendas. They feed the masses propaganda, and a good chunk of people continue to lap it all up. If you want to believe all this hype and go be swept up in the endless stream of mass hysteria be my guest, but personally I don't believe a word these guys say as long as money and ratings are involved. They've often proven outright to slander, be disingenuous, fabricate, and have personal agendas.

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SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

"That doesn't answer my question.  How does supporting not banning of a news reporter equate to supporting being able to invade a home for information?"

it shows a clear disregard for boundaries

i used the privacy of the home as a metaphor

 

"Alex Jones does not have White House or Congressional media credentials"

actually he does : https://www.businessinsider.com/infowars-granted-white-house-press-credentials-2017-5

he's more deserving of them when compared to CNN and that's saying something

Boundaries?  For what?  It's a press conference at the Rose Garden right outside the Oval Office.  It's not in his bathroom.  Nor are boundaries or privacy an issue given that dozens of others will also be there.

Also, I just learned the reporter was banned by Bill Shine, the White House deputy chief of staff for communications and....former co-president of Fox News.  Hmmmmm.

 

And no, Alex Jones, does not have White House or Congressional media credentials.  He was given a day pass to attend an event and then bragged all over Twitter like he got permanent credentials.  Did you even read your own link?

"Far-right website InfoWars was granted temporary White House press credentials on Monday"
"The outlet was reportedly granted only day-long press credentials, which are far easier to receive and viewed as less prestigious than a permanent pass."

"“He is not credentialed for the White House. The White House Press Office has not offered him credentials,” White House deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/334583-questions-surround-infowars-claim-of-white-house-press-credentials

"Nor are boundaries or privacy an issue given that dozens of others will also be there."

all this tells me is that you don't understand the concept of "boundaries"

 

"He was given a day pass to attend an event and then bragged all over Twitter like he got permanent credentials."

where in my post did i claim that his credentials were permanent?

i posted that in response to you avoiding my original question which was would alex jones in such a situation be entitled to an interview according to your standards?

and its looking like the answer is no since you can do nothing but avoid the question



PwerlvlAmy said:
This is in thread warning to all of you. Please refrain from personally attacking others and generalizing. Its possible to have a discussion in regards to your opinions in a civil manner. Thank you

I appreciate this warning, but it is kind of ironic, that the president of the United States would not be able to do so and he is the topic of this thread.



There once was a great sig here, but it got killed.

A moment of silence would be appreciated.

DirtyP2002 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
This is in thread warning to all of you. Please refrain from personally attacking others and generalizing. Its possible to have a discussion in regards to your opinions in a civil manner. Thank you

I appreciate this warning, but it is kind of ironic, that the president of the United States would not be able to do so and he is the topic of this thread.

Dumb comment and Trump generally punches back after being attacked.



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melbye said:
It's Just so funny how much he hates CNN

Many of us feel CNN is garbage television. Frankly, it feels justified because CNN destroyed their own credibility.

Its also worth noting CNN's ratings have declined because there is no reason to watch it unless you really enjoy Trump bashing. Which is a demographic MSNBC is also vying for.



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Nem said:
More dictatorial behaviour from the so wishful called leader of the "free" world.

If that was the case people would be in prison or dead for negative reporting about Trump. Last I checked, that's most of our media in the US.

Maybe ease up with the hyperbole.



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