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Ahh.. So I guess THIS is now the issue everyone's gonna blow completely out of proportion and lose their shit over, until next week when Trump sneezes on a foreign leader, then everyone will completely forget about this and rant about that, claiming it to be the Apocalypse or the second coming of Hitler. Remember that children in cages thing? The Putin thing? Seems like ages ago already, doesn't it? That's because everybody already forgot about it and moved on to the next thing, essentially - what the media instructs everyone to focus on and be mad at now..

Just so damn sick of the Trump hysteria, day after day, week after freaking week, and every week it's something else. I think I might have to filter out political threads here. I get enough Trump hysteria and propaganda shoved down my throat on practically a daily basis as is. I kinda come here to escape that crap..



 

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Radek said:
Good. CNN is the fakest from the fake news.

Before politics get into it, and someone goes I prefer Fox News ect...... Remember this, as SpokenTruth said:

SpokenTruth said:
I'm just trying to imagine what the right would have said about Obama had he banned a Fox News reporter.


Imagine Fox news not being allowed to press events.... there would be a field day about fair practises, and free press, and it being a politicial choice ect.

"Freedom of Press is a cornerstone of democracy"

Not allowing non-favored Press in, is something dictators do.
Saying "good" when Trump does it? because it suits your own political agenda,.... is worrying.
This shouldnt be something americans (home of the free & brave) should be happy about.



jason1637 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Cohen and his attorney, Lanny Davis, sent CNN the tape.  It wasn't leaked from the FBI to CNN.

Still CNN did the leaking. Cohen is scum, CNN is scum. Trump is also scum but in this situation I agree with banning them.

Trumps own laywers where the ones that released that tape, cnn played right?

Only 2 sides had access to the tapes, and the FBI said they didnt leak them = trumps own laywers did.

If trumps team, wanted that tape out there, what wrong is it, when CNN plays it for the people?
Also CNN wasnt the only news site to play the tapes, even Fox News did.



From what i’ve read and heard it was well within their rights to throw her out because she was being disruptive.



SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

can you give an example and expand on how its hypocrisy?

Anytime Obama even came remotely close to violating the Constitution, the right went nuts about it.  Here, you guys are just sweeping an actual violation under the rug.

Even Fox News is calling out Trump for this one.

Jay Wallace, president of Fox News, expressed support for CNN. “We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press,”


"the right went nuts about it.  Here, you guys"

you should be banned for this slanderous bullshit but regardless

 

"Here, you guys are just sweeping an actual violation under the rug."

this is a violation of the constitution in what way?

 

"“We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press,”"

a free press does not mean that they have free reign to go anywhere they want.... if i accused you of being a russian spy, does that give the press the right to invade your home to gather evidence?



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I want to be surprised but I am not. Trump is like watching a reality show.



massimus said:
Pemalite said:
What happened to being a free country? Trump should stop trying to limit the "free press".

CNN is free to make stories of all of the other journalists in the meeting. They can take photos from outside the doors and then cry about for a week lmao.

 

Attending a whitehouse conference doesn’t have anything to do with freedom of the press as law and banning an organization from meetings doesn’t make the country any less free. What law did Trump break by doing this? He doesn’t have to have press meetings at all if he doesn’t want to. Your claim is out there is all I’m saying. 

Whether or not it's against the law isn't really the point. If it was against the law, then I would like to think something would be done about it. Trump handles situations by banning, firing, or replacing people that disagree with him.

I'm not big into politics myself, but it worries me to see a president that is incapable of admitting when he is wrong. If something doesn't work out, Trump always points a finger, and never takes responsibility for his actions. He would go so far as to take credit for something that wasn't his doing, and the only thing he seems to care about is his position of power.

I think Trump thrives on making people upset with him. Many of his tweets seem to instigate and provoke. Trump is an old man, and perhaps he is bored with life, and to him, it's exciting to stir the pot at the expense of the American people. I truly believe that Trump wants to be the "bad guy".



DarthMetalliCube said:

Ahh.. So I guess THIS is now the issue everyone's gonna blow completely out of proportion and lose their shit over, until next week when Trump sneezes on a foreign leader, then everyone will completely forget about this and rant about that, claiming it to be the Apocalypse or the second coming of Hitler. Remember that children in cages thing? The Putin thing? Seems like ages ago already, doesn't it? That's because everybody already forgot about it and moved on to the next thing, essentially - what the media instructs everyone to focus on and be mad at now..

Just so damn sick of the Trump hysteria, day after day, week after freaking week, and every week it's something else. I think I might have to filter out political threads here. I get enough Trump hysteria and propaganda shoved down my throat on practically a daily basis as is. I kinda come here to escape that crap..

Ignorance is bliss I guess. It’s a testament to these dark times if some people prefer to look away just because they’re already used to these atrocities. 



jason1637 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

That tape had incriminating evidence of him doing something illegal, so he's essentially doing a cover-up. He's even worse than Nixon.

It really does not. I believe that everything discussed between someone and their lawyer should stay confidential. It's fucked up that it got leaked.

CosmicSex said:

Wasn't it already established that Trump's own lawyers leaked the tape.  By everyone?  

No he recorded tapes that the FBI got a hold of and CNN got their hands on some tapes and leaked them.

CNN can't leak it.  They can only report it.  Only someone originally in possession of it can leak it.  The existence of those tapes were leaked by Trumps legal team last week.  They then said that Trump had waived attorney client privilege (biggest hint).  Therefore being as though they leaked the story in the first place it only makes sense that they leaked the audio to a source that leaked to CNN or they leaked it directly to CNN.  There are only a handful of possibilities here if you add of what is already known.  Since there is only one other possible source of the leak (Cohen) the other possibility is that when the Trump team announced that they have waived privilege on the audio, Cohen leaked the audio to CNN.  But as you know, their was a rumor that Cohen could have flipped but needed something substantial to warrant a deal.  Therefore the most likely case is that the tape was leaked by the Trump team to try to stop a flip.   It is 10X more likely that Trump leaked the tape.  Its kinda obvious what  they did actually... 

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coolbeans said:
SpokenTruth said:
I'm just trying to imagine what the right would have said about Obama had he banned a Fox News reporter.

If you have to "imagine" that then that just shows you didn't really keep tabs on him.

-https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obamas-feud-with-fox-news/

All other news outlets had to stand in solidarity with FOX when Obama tried something similar in his first term.

-https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-show-obama-white-house-attacked-excluded-fox-news-channel/

Also...

-https://freebeacon.com/issues/state-department-ejects-free-beacon-reporter-from-briefing/

 

Too bad Fox didn't return the favor this time huh?  On one hand it seems like the networks should once again be banning together but my instinct tells me that the since the Trump team leaked the knowledge of the tape right before it 'leaked' that the other outlets, including CNN are okay with this.  Trump benefits, CNN benefits by being given the tape, Fox gets to run their anti media reports.  The only one really being disadvantaged here is Cohen and the FBI. They loose a bartering tool.  Its all interesting to watch how this whole thing unfolds and also how lawyers maximize the limits of legality.