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setsunatenshi on 24 July 2018
Mnementh said:
That sounds indeed interesting. If they nail the latency issues and have a good price on their streaming stuff, I might own my first XBox.

@bold: I agree, if they somehow manage to bend the laws of physics that would indeed be impressive :D



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HoloDust on 24 July 2018

I can't quite bend my head around that "collision detection locally" - wouldn't that require all game logic to run locally (so CPU is local), and than cloud to renders image and stream it back?



drkohler on 24 July 2018

Here's my question:
If that streaming box is not a powerful console, wouldn't a generic XBox1S already be powerful enough? So why would one need to buy this streaming box at all if one owned an XBox1S?



lightningfunk on 24 July 2018

this will be done by sony also

the Big part is how they structure their subscription service



JRPGfan on 24 July 2018
drkohler said:
Here's my question:
If that streaming box is not a powerful console, wouldn't a generic XBox1S already be powerful enough?
So why would one need to buy this streaming box at all if one owned an XBox1S?

it could require a hardware solution, that the Xbox One S just doesnt have.

You ll still need to fork out another 125$ or so, for this streaming console.

Streaming console
+its cheap (125$ vs 400-500$)
-input delay is greater than normal console (more difficult to aim in shooters, harder to time jumps in platformers ect)
-less graphics (compression leads to loss of quality, even if minor its there)
-requires internet/servers to be up to play any and all games
-requires Unlimited Download Internet types, or this will end up costing you more than a normal console.

Could be a hit... I could see Playstation guy thats mainly want to try 1 or 2 Xbox games, getting this type of console, for as a console for kids too.



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HollyGamer on 24 July 2018
drkohler said:
Here's my question:
If that streaming box is not a powerful console, wouldn't a generic XBox1S already be powerful enough? So why would one need to buy this streaming box at all if one owned an XBox1S?

Probably it will be far more cheaper then the Xbox Ones S



HollyGamer on 24 July 2018
lightningfunk said:
this will be done by sony also

the Big part is how they structure their subscription service

Actually SONY has one before it called PS Now and Vita TV , hell you can play PS Now on PC and TV alone (some modern new SONY 4K TV) 



HollyGamer on 24 July 2018
BraLoD said:
Why not fit both in the same package, as promissed for the One back in 2013?
Also, yes, there will be "this game only runs on XB4", just with "if you are offline" added ahead.
PS will reign with little competition again, MS is already trying to shoot its own feet with 2 different systems to mess consumers mind.

Actually , in my opinion it's  smart move, the streaming device will be a super cheap one. I can see PS will follow the same suit because PS already has the foundation with PS Now and they had one before with PS Vita TV



HoloDust on 24 July 2018
drkohler said:
Here's my question:
If that streaming box is not a powerful console, wouldn't a generic XBox1S already be powerful enough? So why would one need to buy this streaming box at all if one owned an XBox1S?

If that thing about collision detection done locally is true (which implies game logic running locally), then I guess at least same or similar CPU is required to be in cloud box as well in full offline box.



nanarchy on 24 July 2018
Mar1217 said:
Pemalite said:

Erm. Maybe you missed the part where the "traditional" console is retained?
Have garbage internet? Then the streaming box ain't for you, buy the console that isn't meant for streaming.

But since the streaming box is probably made with budget sensitive people in mind. You would  think that most of them don't have the bugdet for neither the traditional version or good internet and data cap which is necessary for the streaming box.

So in other words they are a market that isn't going to buy any next gen console or games? I know there are people in that situation, but really they are not a profitable market for anyone to target.