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Smartie900 said:
mZuzek said:

Not too great. I haven't been at home this last day so I missed this thread, but I obviously didn't miss the news.

I'm sure someone must have pointed this out, but since I missed the thread I'm just skipping it: the music will probably not be affected by this. James Gunn already had a finished script for GotG Vol. 3 and the script includes all the songs that would play in the movie, so unless Disney/Marvel decide to mess around with the script, it should be "fine". Not that I'm fine with Gunn not directing it, of course.

Wouldn't Disney want to completely re-write the script so they don't have to give Gunn credit? They might keep the songs but I feel like they're going to start the script from scratch to avoid any association with Gunn.

If they do, they might have me on the brink of boycotting it.

That said, I doubt they would completely rewrite it. It's just too much work and takes too long when they can just use something that's already finished and is likely good. Plus, many of the GotG cast are showing their support for James Gunn as a director and as a person, I think it'd be disrespectful to them too to have their characters' final chapter be rewritten from nowhere. I do think they will make changes just so they can say it's not Gunn's script, but I doubt they'd do it all from scratch.

I'm also a little unsure on how much Disney really wants to disassociate with him. I think it's obvious they couldn't have possibly hired him without knowing about this, and I find it hard to believe that they took the decision to fire him overnight considering he was probably the second most important person in the MCU after Feige. That, along with Gunn's "I'm okay with it" reaction, makes me think maybe they always had a deal where if the shit he posted in the past was too exposed, he'd get fired, because obviously Disney's PR would have a hard time keeping him... and if that's the case, I'd assume the people at Disney still respect him.

But honestly, whatever. I'm sick of Disney at this point. I thought they were gonna keep their hands off Marvel, but apparently those days are over... I'm expecting them to go full Star Wars soon. Nothing good can last forever, I guess.



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Smartie900 said:
mZuzek said:

Not too great. I haven't been at home this last day so I missed this thread, but I obviously didn't miss the news.

I'm sure someone must have pointed this out, but since I missed the thread I'm just skipping it: the music will probably not be affected by this. James Gunn already had a finished script for GotG Vol. 3 and the script includes all the songs that would play in the movie, so unless Disney/Marvel decide to mess around with the script, it should be "fine". Not that I'm fine with Gunn not directing it, of course.

Wouldn't Disney want to completely re-write the script so they don't have to give Gunn credit? They might keep the songs but I feel like they're going to start the script from scratch to avoid any association with Gunn.

Very very very unlikely, the whole 3 films were all meant to lead to the 3rd one, between Quill forming the guardians as his foster family, finding his real father only to be let down by what he discovers and now the 3rd is meant to be about him and Gamora, if the 3rd film is chucked out and replaced with "villain of the week has to be stopped by the guardians" it will be very noticeable and likely reward the MCU with a fairly low rated movie which will seem very out of place.



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mZuzek said:
LipeJJ said:

Yeah, this is really worrisome. I wonder how mZuzek is doing...

Not too great. I haven't been at home this last day so I missed this thread, but I obviously didn't miss the news.

I'm sure someone must have pointed this out, but since I missed the thread I'm just skipping it: the music will probably not be affected by this. James Gunn already had a finished script for GotG Vol. 3 and the script includes all the songs that would play in the movie, so unless Disney/Marvel decide to mess around with the script, it should be "fine". Not that I'm fine with Gunn not directing it, of course.

Yeah it just won't be the same without him... any ideas for directors you'd like to see replace him? Chances are they won't use logic and find someone with similar experience, because that's too easy convenient, lol. Although I'm seeing from a few places on the net that people want Taika Waititi to step in and direct, which I've got to say I wouldn't be against, since Thor Ragnarok had a similar sort of feel, they definitely used the Guardians films as inspiration etc. when looking in what direction to take the film, and it worked.



Chris Pratt tweeted something about forgiving people, I think it might be a verse from the bible going by the replies it’s got. I also know Bautista(drax) has commented on how Disney we’re wrong to sack him for something over a decade ago.
Personally I think they should of just forgave it, I understand Disney has a happy image to keep up but it was 10years ago and he’s a changed man.

I reckon they’ll get Taika Waititi to direct GOTG3 now. Thor ragnarok had a similar vibe to it and obviously he’s worked with marvel and Disney so it makes sense. I just hope he didn’t say anything offensive when he was 8 years old and it was recorded.



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mZuzek said:
Smartie900 said:

Wouldn't Disney want to completely re-write the script so they don't have to give Gunn credit? They might keep the songs but I feel like they're going to start the script from scratch to avoid any association with Gunn.

If they do, they might have me on the brink of boycotting it.

That said, I doubt they would completely rewrite it. It's just too much work and takes too long when they can just use something that's already finished and is likely good. Plus, many of the GotG cast are showing their support for James Gunn as a director and as a person, I think it'd be disrespectful to them too to have their characters' final chapter be rewritten from nowhere. I do think they will make changes just so they can say it's not Gunn's script, but I doubt they'd do it all from scratch.

I'm also a little unsure on how much Disney really wants to disassociate with him. I think it's obvious they couldn't have possibly hired him without knowing about this, and I find it hard to believe that they took the decision to fire him overnight considering he was probably the second most important person in the MCU after Feige. That, along with Gunn's "I'm okay with it" reaction, makes me think maybe they always had a deal where if the shit he posted in the past was too exposed, he'd get fired, because obviously Disney's PR would have a hard time keeping him... and if that's the case, I'd assume the people at Disney still respect him.

But honestly, whatever. I'm sick of Disney at this point. I thought they were gonna keep their hands off Marvel, but apparently those days are over... I'm expecting them to go full Star Wars soon. Nothing good can last forever, I guess.

I was thinking that too, a lot of fans of the series are not going to support a film which is cut to pieces and just flung onto the screens simply to make that bi-annual Marvel movie happen, and considering that Disney actually managed to lose money on a Star Wars film I really don't think they'll brush off talk of a possible boycott of a billion dollar film because of this blow out. I mean... sure they have their morale high ground to maintain... but Guardians 1+2 took in a combined 1.6billion dollars in box office alone, never mind deals with streaming services like Netflix, Bluray/DVD, OST, toy sales. the total of which for Disney is likely to be well over the 2b mark so far... are their morales worth shooting a billion dollars in the back? It will be very interesting to see how it plays out.



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Bristow9091 said:
mZuzek said:

Not too great. I haven't been at home this last day so I missed this thread, but I obviously didn't miss the news.

I'm sure someone must have pointed this out, but since I missed the thread I'm just skipping it: the music will probably not be affected by this. James Gunn already had a finished script for GotG Vol. 3 and the script includes all the songs that would play in the movie, so unless Disney/Marvel decide to mess around with the script, it should be "fine". Not that I'm fine with Gunn not directing it, of course.

Yeah it just won't be the same without him... any ideas for directors you'd like to see replace him? Chances are they won't use logic and find someone with similar experience, because that's too easy convenient, lol. Although I'm seeing from a few places on the net that people want Taika Waititi to step in and direct, which I've got to say I wouldn't be against, since Thor Ragnarok had a similar sort of feel, they definitely used the Guardians films as inspiration etc. when looking in what direction to take the film, and it worked.

I'd be okay with Taika Waititi, but not too happy. I'm not overly fond of Ragnarok's overly shallow tone and writing, where nothing seems to really matter and the story is just a shoddy excuse for giving us some cool set pieces and scenery. Well, I guess if they kept Gunn's script intact, then it could be fine, but still, eh.

I'm not too knowledgeable on directors or cinema as a whole to have a wide variety of picks in my mind, but my pipe dream would be... well, my pipe dream would be Disney getting their shit together and getting Gunn back, but if that can't be, my other pipe dream is Edgar Wright. Of course, this would be impossible because Ant-Man and all, but he's someone who can really make a movie look awesome, and I believe he'd try to do it while staying true to Gunn's work. So, him.



StokedUp said:
Chris Pratt tweeted something about forgiving people, I think it might be a verse from the bible going by the replies it’s got. I also know Bautista(drax) has commented on how Disney we’re wrong to sack him for something over a decade ago.
Personally I think they should of just forgave it, I understand Disney has a happy image to keep up but it was 10years ago and he’s a changed man.

Yeah. It's particularly ironic (and annoying) that this kind of stuff is exactly what GotG is about. About crappy people learning to be nicer, together. Gunn made that the main theme of these films and it rang so true and authentic because it did come from his real life experiences - so much so he even personified his past edgy self in the character of Rocket. I guess fictional characters are allowed to make mistakes and be forgiven, but not real people.



Ganoncrotch said:
Smartie900 said:

Wouldn't Disney want to completely re-write the script so they don't have to give Gunn credit? They might keep the songs but I feel like they're going to start the script from scratch to avoid any association with Gunn.

Very very very unlikely, the whole 3 films were all meant to lead to the 3rd one, between Quill forming the guardians as his foster family, finding his real father only to be let down by what he discovers and now the 3rd is meant to be about him and Gamora, if the 3rd film is chucked out and replaced with "villain of the week has to be stopped by the guardians" it will be very noticeable and likely reward the MCU with a fairly low rated movie which will seem very out of place.

but couldn’t someone different  write a new script that still adheres to and follows on from the storylines set up in the previous films? I know it would still most probably suck, but bigwigs don’t care about stuff like that... In a way It’d defeat the purpose of Disney publicly dissociating themselves from Gunn if they were then gonna go and release a movie with his name in the credits anyway. Might as well have kept him on (personally I hope they do use his script and get a decent director to take over....the guardians were handled well in infinity war so there is hope)...



mZuzek said:
Smartie900 said:

Wouldn't Disney want to completely re-write the script so they don't have to give Gunn credit? They might keep the songs but I feel like they're going to start the script from scratch to avoid any association with Gunn.

If they do, they might have me on the brink of boycotting it.

That said, I doubt they would completely rewrite it. It's just too much work and takes too long when they can just use something that's already finished and is likely good. Plus, many of the GotG cast are showing their support for James Gunn as a director and as a person, I think it'd be disrespectful to them too to have their characters' final chapter be rewritten from nowhere. I do think they will make changes just so they can say it's not Gunn's script, but I doubt they'd do it all from scratch.

I'm also a little unsure on how much Disney really wants to disassociate with him. I think it's obvious they couldn't have possibly hired him without knowing about this, and I find it hard to believe that they took the decision to fire him overnight considering he was probably the second most important person in the MCU after Feige. That, along with Gunn's "I'm okay with it" reaction, makes me think maybe they always had a deal where if the shit he posted in the past was too exposed, he'd get fired, because obviously Disney's PR would have a hard time keeping him... and if that's the case, I'd assume the people at Disney still respect him.

But honestly, whatever. I'm sick of Disney at this point. I thought they were gonna keep their hands off Marvel, but apparently those days are over... I'm expecting them to go full Star Wars soon. Nothing good can last forever, I guess.

I might just skip Guardians 3. I planned to quit watching any of the MCU movies after Avengers 4 because it just got too convoluted. I was only considering watching new Spider-Man and Guardians movies since they didn't feel soulless. My biggest concern with this franchise was that one of the directors would get fired and would be replaced be a studio yes-man that would create bland and generic movies like Ant-Man and Thor 1/2. This whole controversy has left a really bad taste in my mouth and I'm really scared that Marvel's gonna get lazy and hire a mediocre director that's gonna make a subpar 3rd movie. I'll wait and see... but the Guardians movies were some of my favorite in the franchise and it's sad to see Disney getting rid of creative talent. I guess new Spider-Man movies are all I have left to look forward to. I'm honestly more intrigued by DC's future slate of movies at this point.



 

 

Well those tweets are fucking sick and I don't think any sane person would wrote stuff like that.

Can't believe this clown was married to Pam Beesly.