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Majin-Tenshinhan on 18 July 2018
KManX89 said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said: Capcom have severe problems with budgeting, where they'll have games that should by all accounts be successes (RE6, RE7) but still end up in the red because Capcom are incapable of managing the budgets of games.

Not true, RE7 broke even at 2.5 mil copies sold, it's now sold over 5 mil copies. RE7 was very much successful. 

That being out of the way, no, though it would be cool to see an M-rated 3D Darkstalkers with fatalities.

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hunter_alien on 18 July 2018
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
hunter_alien said:

There is no arguing that. I often feel that some of the stakeholders still believe that Capcom has the same clout it did during the 5th/6th generation and they predict based on that. They still have a long way to go until they reach those levels and this is mostly down to the very mediocre performance they had during the 7th generation and the hard transition they had into this one.

And yes expecting 10 million LT sales (even with a full-fledged Switch port) for RE7 would be pretty much impossible to meat, and its number that puts way to much pressure on RE2 Remake.

You're probably right, and while Capcom have an IP library that's strong enough where you could reasonably expect much form them, their numbers outside of Monster Hunter just do not back up these expectations. They should take a page from Nintendo's book where it comes to budget managements, and do some smaller projects that will turn a healthy profit at 500k instead of trying to force each of their games to be 2 million at least or not worth doing. Devil May Cry 5 has the same expectation now, and while it has a much more realistic shot of hitting that target than Dead Rising 4 or Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite did, it's still very far from a sure thing, specially with how much of the DmC aesthetic they seem to have maintained.

Yupp. And considering that DmC had a 5 million LT target and barely scraped by the 2 million mark, I wonder how much are they expecting this one to perform and how much will it undelivered. 

regardless, seeing the risk/expected reward Capcom is willing to take, some old IPs like Darkstalker and Maximo might never see the light of day again :(



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Rafie on 18 July 2018
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As much as I'd like a revival, I'd much rather have a new Rival Schools T_T

Factual! I could see a new Rival School/Project Justice game. It's been demanded for a long time alongside of Capcom vs SNK3.



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Majin-Tenshinhan on 18 July 2018
hunter_alien said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

You're probably right, and while Capcom have an IP library that's strong enough where you could reasonably expect much form them, their numbers outside of Monster Hunter just do not back up these expectations. They should take a page from Nintendo's book where it comes to budget managements, and do some smaller projects that will turn a healthy profit at 500k instead of trying to force each of their games to be 2 million at least or not worth doing. Devil May Cry 5 has the same expectation now, and while it has a much more realistic shot of hitting that target than Dead Rising 4 or Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite did, it's still very far from a sure thing, specially with how much of the DmC aesthetic they seem to have maintained.

Yupp. And considering that DmC had a 5 million LT target and barely scraped by the 2 million mark, I wonder how much are they expecting this one to perform and how much will it undelivered. 

regardless, seeing the risk/expected reward Capcom is willing to take, some old IPs like Darkstalker and Maximo might never see the light of day again :(

It's sad, because Capcom have the 2nd strongest IP library in gaming next to Nintendo in my opinion, but they've consistently mismanaged so many of them, and they refuse to do any non-blockbuster IPs besides Ace Attorney, so most of their great series are left in the dust...



Heavenly_King on 18 July 2018

with 3D you can achieve much, much better results if done right. If with today's tech it is not done right, it is because the developers are lazy. When it is done right you have how GGXrd and DBF look; and they could look even better if they did not have in consideration the PS360 consoles version of GGXrd.



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Heavenly_King on 18 July 2018
hunter_alien said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Extremely doubtful. It's a fairly small series, and Capcom are doing awfully with their big franchises (sans Monster Hunter).

Capcom have severe problems with budgeting, where they'll have games that should by all accounts be successes (RE6, RE7) but still end up in the red because Capcom are incapable of managing the budgets of games.

Especially given the dire straits of Street Fighter 5 - which wasn't even funded by them, but by Sony - since release and the controversies that keep piling up with it, Capcom doing a Street Fighter 6 is getting kind of dubious, let alone them going back to any of their old fighting game franchises they've neglected for the last 20 years.

I keep hearing this but there is absolutely 0 proof that they did not make a nice profit on RE7. They did fall short on expectations by 500k for the first quarter shipment (http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/04/resident_evil_7_falls_short_of_capcoms_sales_expectations)  but it also broke even with 2.5 million in sales (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/191629-resident-evil-7-biohazard/74991233) and it now passed the 5 million mark, heading to 6 . So can we finally put this argument to rest?

As for Darkstalkers... I just wish :(

RE5 and RE6 sold better, just saying ;)    RE7 is just at 5.1M by march 2018

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html



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hunter_alien on 18 July 2018
Heavenly_King said:
hunter_alien said:

I keep hearing this but there is absolutely 0 proof that they did not make a nice profit on RE7. They did fall short on expectations by 500k for the first quarter shipment (http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/04/resident_evil_7_falls_short_of_capcoms_sales_expectations)  but it also broke even with 2.5 million in sales (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/191629-resident-evil-7-biohazard/74991233) and it now passed the 5 million mark, heading to 6 . So can we finally put this argument to rest?

As for Darkstalkers... I just wish :(

RE5 and RE6 sold better, just saying ;)    RE7 is just at 5.1M by march 2018

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

True, but RE7 reportedly had a lower development budget than those 2 and RE6 had abysmal sales while being full priced. There were major price promotions from retail chains even before the game turned 1 month.

Also RE7 was an engine lead game, for the RE engine that will further recoup costs while NT framework was not for RE5. Add in the VR exclusivity that probably guaranteed some preferential treatment from Sony and its obvious that the 5 million sales for RE7 can be seen in a different light.



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