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Machiavellian said:
o_O.Q said:

 

jesus christ wake the f up

trump is a bull in a china shop and the ignorant or otherwise supporters of the deep state cannot handle that

trump is exactly what is needed, a masculine confrontational man to shake things up and run the cockroaches out from the shadows for everyone to see

hilary clinton started the birther movement btw according to morning joe even though the msm have been calling trump a racist for starting it

 

Lol, so Trump is a bull in a China shop unless its Russia.  You want us to believe that he is here to shake things up but when he gets his chance at Russia he act like Putin bitch.  Next if you were on point, then Trump would not have walked back his previous statements and stood firm instead of that ridiculous crap he spewed on Tuesday. Maybe you should wait until Trump knows which Trump to defend before trying defend one stance he already threw away.

Your defense of Trump doesn't hold any water because he walked his statements back.  You want to make it appear we should all discount everything that was shone concerning the hacking because of a few videos you found.  You want everyone to dismiss everything from all the security councils and agencies because Trump made a fool of himself to the world. 

Who cares if Hillary started the Birther movement.  Trump took that torch and made it his own.  As always, people believe by throwing Hillary or Obama name into something it asolves trump from doing the same thing.  If you thought it was stupid, criminal or bad under one person, why suddenly it would be ok for another.  Why is it you have to justify what Trump is doing or has done based on someone else doing it.  

here's a question for you... why do you trust the claims about russian hacking?

i've posted evidence of government agencies and the media covering up the selling of drugs to your children, the murder of your children in wars based on lies, the stealing of your money to fund people who would love to blow you to smitherines

and you trust these people? why? are you some type of masochist?

what is different about the claims of russia when we think back to iraq or numerous other examples where they made up endless total bullshit to justify engaging in conflict with other countries?



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Hiku said:
o_O.Q said:

lol am i really seeing posts in here stating that we need to trust the CIA, FBI and MSM?????

None of what you posted is the equivalent of the Special Council, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, and even the (Reublican) House Intelligence Committee unanimously reaching the conclusion that the cyber attacks originated from Russia. And they've traced this back to specific individuals, by name.
And just to remind you, the House Intelligence Committee have had Trump's back from the get go. They dropped the investigation into collusion with Russia prematurely before interviewing several key witnesses, and Devin Nunes infamously presented the White House with intel that he seemingly got from the White House when he jumped out of an uber in the middle of the night to sneak into the WH, etc.
And even they're saying that there's no question that Russia did in fact do it. Some of his most loyal lapdogs control that committee.

Regarding "Trump is what America needs", no country needs an idiot to run it. Let alone one who is also dangerously uninformed about policy and the world in general.
But here we are.

Maintaining a good relationship with Russia is one thing. And US intelligence sure have a history of shady business and deserve critique for that. But to undermine every single US intelligence agency when they unanimously reached a conclusion after being attacked by a hostile nation is moronic.
Putin is not going to go home and say that they are to blame for what happened, or undermine his country's intelligence.

Trump should have just said what he said the other day when he was forced by his party to read from a script and take it all back. But he could have added something like "We need to investigate these individuals before we reach a final conclusion" because Putin was (at least pretending to be) open to help with that investigation.

However, Trump was either more worried about making his electoral college victory look less legitimate, to the point where he made himself look many times more suspicious in the "witch hunt" that he constantly complains about, or he took Putin's advice from the meeting earlier.
Whatever the case, it was undoubtedly the wrong decision, or Trump wouldn't have been forced to sit down and retract his statement in front of cameras, with his most unbelievable lie yet. That he meant to say "wouldn't" instead of "would".

But at least he got to add something to the speech.
"THERE WAS NO COLUSION" he wrote with a sharpie. With one L... So you know it's him who wrote it.




The word he uses almost on a daily basis. And he doesn't even know how to spell it.

And of course he didn't know that Ireland isn't part of the UK. Or what a "Hard Brexit" is but he says he's "been studying it for the past coupld of days". Etc.
He is a living breathing caricature of himself... He embarrasses himself on a daily basis, but people around him are seemingly afraid to tell him that. Even when he makes factually inaccurate claims repeatedly, no one corrects him. Seemingly unless there's an enormous backlash, like on Monday.
It's The Emporer's News Clothes.
But yeah, exactly what America needs. Ggs.

 

"None of what you posted is the equivalent of the Special Council, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, and even the (Reublican) House Intelligence Committee unanimously reaching the conclusion that the cyber attacks originated from Russia. "

i've posted evidence that all of these agencies have deceived the people on the united states for years

stealing tax money to then turn around and peddle drugs to school children, to fund conflicts and enemies of american citizens in other countries, and it goes on and on and on

why do you think that the creep who gives drugs to your kids can be trusted?



Wyrdness said:
o_O.Q said:

lol am i really seeing posts in here stating that we need to trust the CIA, FBI and MSM?????

lets do a quick recap

 

madeline albright by the way recently criticised trump over his treatment of children and was featured on jimmy kimmel

 

 

jesus christ wake the f up

trump is a bull in a china shop and the ignorant or otherwise supporters of the deep state cannot handle that

trump is exactly what is needed, a masculine confrontational man to shake things up and run the cockroaches out from the shadows for everyone to see

hilary clinton started the birther movement btw according to morning joe even though the msm have been calling trump a racist for starting it

Well your President backtracked and said he now does.

fair enough but what about you? do you trust the creep peddling drugs to your children? that's the question



Bofferbrauer2 said:
o_O.Q said:
hilary clinton participated in the funding of al qaeda, the greatest threat to americans over the past few decades , that alone should have invalidated her presidential run

Care to send some proofs about that?

uh i posted a video?

here you go again

and obama's mentor initiated the funding process



Machiavellian said:
massimus said:

LOL Putin didn’t do shit, he’s an asshole. Wow such class. You hate Trump so much you would hype that midget dictator? No putin laughed because the questions were MORONIC lmao. Master puppeteer, what a joke. I didn’t defend the performance, check what I said a few pages ago...... I just asked why people think a shitty press conference is an impeachable offense and why people are hyping up the asshole who didn’t do anything lol.

 

Most of them think we are stupid. This press conference is the last thing I would use as proof of that. They think we are as ignorant as they are, most people in DC. Good he should walk them back. I didn’t defend what he did dummy. He is what I wrote a few pages ago.

 

Im just asking how this “embarrassing” conference is relevant in any way to impeachment. People act like this is finally it, we finally got him! No lol.... and to hype up that asshole putin just because you hate trump lol, it’s pathetic. Master class lmao! He isn’t shit, he didn’t do shit. It’s laughable.

So the reason why impeachment is being presented should be obvious.  Trump is the president of the US and he was given just like any President all the information we have on Russia attack on the 2016 elections.  There is no dispute of any of this information from any of the agencies, white house staff, Congress, you name it.  It's the whole reason why he had to walk back his statement because it's not something under discussion or up in the air any more.  During that Press conference, Trump threw that info away and publically put blame to the US for Russia attack.  So yes, people in all corners of the government who are privy to that information is calling what Trump did treasonous and right up there with impeachable act.  Knowing Trump character, you know he absolutely hates have to admit he is ever wrong.  For him to retract all that crap he said on Monday was a complete blunder and he knew it because there isn't any dispute about the evidence we have that Putin himself order the interference. 

Now, lets address this continued projection you have that people who believe Trump is an idiot must hate him.  I continue to laugh at that line you throw out all the time.  I continue to wonder why I must hate Trump to believe he is a complete idiot.  

As for Putin, yes, Master class puppeteer he must be.  When you have the President of another nation with full evidence of your crime against them and you have him go on national TV and lie for you and in the same process basically throw his government and his people under the bus to make you look good, if that isn't master class I do not know what is.  You can laugh all you want but you can also be sure Putin is right there with you as he embarrased Trump in front of everyone and now he has to pick up the pieces.  I do not know, you either call Trump a complete idiot or you give props to Putin for making Trump look like a complete idiot.  You cannot have it both ways.  

What information is that? What did the Obama adminstration do to stop it? Spy on the trump campaign, start a special counsel lol. Still no evidence on how any of this bullshit influenced the election or how it connects to the trump campaign. The trump campaign indictment charges are false statements to an agent, not any crazy Russian election conspiracy. Every word of that is first paragraph is ridiculous bro. Why would he be impeached for having the clearance authority as a president? It’s like that judge saying “well any other President could do it but not trump”.. uh no, that’s not how it works lol. Where the fuck did they go to law school? 

 

Congress cleared him and his campaign months ago, no evidence after exhausting the witnesses. What, you don’t trust congress? Lol see how that goes? We all know Trump is having squabbles with the FBI and intelligence, the leakers, etc. That’s not an international thing though, in that joint press conference the only correct exaggerated answer is “they are the best in the world, fuck Putin”. Something a long those lines and they are really. They are over in Sweden investigating terrorist attacks. Like I said for the most part they do a good job it’s just law enforcement. The intelligence that went against trump in obvious bias is a story that doesn’t need to be aired out on an international stage.That entire thing was just optics and he failed, it’s nothing to be overjoyous about. It was a dumb answer to a dumb question and it had nothing to do with Putin.

 

I think you dislike him very strongly lol. Is that better?

 

Get the fuck out lmao! He was laughing because if some journalist in Russia was asking such ignorant shit they would be lying in a gutter somewhere. Master class what a joke, he is a scumbag. The press was just as embarrassing as Trump was, what a bunch of morons. For people that are so Anti-Russian you guys sure do swing on Putin’s nuthairs lol. I was anti-Putin way before “he won the 2016 election”. I was Anti-Putin when he was buzzing our coasts with nuke jets. Do you remember that shit? On Independence Day. And you know how badly I can’t stand California lol! The only thing I dislike more than Cali is somebody else fucking with us. He’s not a master of anything, he’s a mobster that pillages his people. Trump fucked up but acting like Putin is sitting there watching his masterpiece unfold is fucking dumb lol. Good satire but just an ignorant mindset if you are serious. That’s propelled by something irrational, like hate. 



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We want very much to have a strong Russia

(because they filled the coffers of the Clinton Foundation)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuv_28buFk



o_O.Q said:

 

trump is exactly what is needed, a masculine confrontational man to shake things up

HAHAHA,

Are you actually trying to argue that President Bitchtits is masculine?



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

o_O.Q said:

lol am i really seeing posts in here stating that we need to trust the CIA, FBI and MSM?????

lets do a quick recap

 

madeline albright by the way recently criticised trump over his treatment of children and was featured on jimmy kimmel

 

Missed the best one: Mueller lied us into the Iraq war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTDO-kuOGTQ



o_O.Q said:
jason1637 said:

We should trust them more than Russia.

lmao you trust the people who sold drugs to your children? then have the gall to arrest them for possession?

who sent your children to die in the god forsaken sands of iraq or lybia or syria to murder other children because of lies?

who have and continue to rob you of your money through the taxes you pay to fund your enemies?

are you messing with me right now?

I trust them more than Russia. Also Trump literally is the head of the Intelligence agencies. 



jason1637 said:
o_O.Q said:

lmao you trust the people who sold drugs to your children? then have the gall to arrest them for possession?

who sent your children to die in the god forsaken sands of iraq or lybia or syria to murder other children because of lies?

who have and continue to rob you of your money through the taxes you pay to fund your enemies?

are you messing with me right now?

I trust them more than Russia. Also Trump literally is the head of the Intelligence agencies. 

In addition. Is that o_O guy suggesting the US engages in child warfare and kills children?
Also, it is literally the Republican party who invaded the middle east, the Republican party is the one who declared war. The very party Trump is in charge of.

Now he is putting the whole operation in the hands of Russian, actually inviting Russian intelligence over to the US in order to investigate them.

Is America great yet?



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.