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Some of the fucking questions/opinions about the US from clueless 20 year olds outside the country are hilarious. I swear you take an Economics or Sociology class at your local community college and you think you're an expert LOL.



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DolPhanTendo said:
It’s funny how people forget what my country has brought to the world because OUR NUMBER ONE BELIEF IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE and the right to pursuit happiness. Remember before the United States most of he people were enslaved or considered peasants under KINGS. Then my fore fathers wrote the greatest piece of paper and human advances took off.

Your ignorant thoughts on we aren’t a developed country is just wrong. And can’t belive this kind of crap is allowed here

Your bolded statements contradict each other.

That said, don't proclaim the US started the freedom movement without giving a nod to the likes of John Locke, Francis Bacon, Voltaire, etc....or Greece.  To say nothing of the genocide and enslavement of millions in the process (your underlined statement, lol).  Freedom...except for you red and brown people.  And women.  And non-Christians.  And homosexuals.  And...



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HomokHarcos said:
Jon-Erich said:

In the US, the average American pays roughly 14% in taxes, though the bracket can range anywhere from 10% to almost 40%. A lot of it depends of what state you're living in. The poor are not taxed a lot simply they do not make enough to be taxed. 

As for entertainment and tech, population has little to do with it. In entertainment for example, look at how many actors and comedians are from Canada. There are a lot of them. Why can't they make it in Canada? They have to come to the US. In fact, there are a lot of foreign entertainers who either work or live in the US. They're not going to Europe or Canada. There's very little there. It's the same thing in the tech field. A lot of the startups happen in the United States, but a lot of the talent comes from places like India. They're not coming to Europe or Canada. They're coming to the US. Even if you wanted to take population figures into account, lets look at Japan. The US has roughly 2 1/2 times the population that the Japanese have and yet the Japanese have their own success in tech and entertainment, much greater than Europe and Canada. At one time, they had the second largest economy in the world. I think they're #3 now.

When looking at the success rate for blacks in the US, if we wanted to go strictly by population, then arguably, there should be fewer successful blacks. In reality, they're over represented in sports. They pretty own an entire music genre that was invented by them in the US. We even had a black president. Also, if you want tp go back further into history, the first female millionaire in American history was a black woman who had been a slave just a few decades before becoming rich. In fact, there are quite a few success stories of ex-slaves who couldn't read or write but ended up owning successful businesses.

With all this being taken into account, there is something about the United States wether it is within the culture of the people or the freedom they enjoy that allows success to occur, especially from unlikely people in unlikely places. Out of the developed nations in the world, it is Japan and the United States that exports most of the culture and tech. Most of this tech and culture came from people were not rich before they found success.

Canada is dominated by US culture more than any other country in the world. Canada and the US tastes are so similar it could pretty much be considered one media market (and in video games it often is). Aspiring Canadian actors moving to Hollywood is not so different from people around the US moving there.

Also, while I do agree with you that Japan and the US have massive cultural exports so does the UK. With music such as The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and Queen. Novels such as Frankenstein, Dracula, The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings, 007 franchise and the Premier League.

Yes, Hollywood has got big for multiple reasons and so people from around the world go work there. The same for the Canadian or the British when they go there. The market is there. Why Hollywood got big in the first place is another story.

I wouldn't say that Canada is dominated by US culture, but I'd say that US media exports are just huge in Canada due to proximity and NAFTA. American culture doesn't dominate Canadians. Canadians, at least in the most populated regions, are much more "British-like", as Australians in some aspects, and historically Canada has been British Empire in North America for so long that they kept adopting whatever came from London.

Even though US entertainment like Hollywood and games are huge in Canada, UK entertainment is also quite big such as BBC productions and British programs overall. It's much more common to see Canadians that enjoy British stuff than Americans as well as a good amount of UK stuff on the Canadian TV. In addition to that, about Hollywood, the entertainment that comes from it is so huge that it's just bigger than many other countries own media industries. I'd say that cinema is basically American everywhere and video games are basic American/Japanese. They're so big that there's quite no point in any other country trying to replicate and that also applies to Canada.

UK, as an English speaking nation, obviously is an exception. Although UK speaks English, they don't quite need to consume US media exports as much, because UK has its own very long book/films/program/entertainment tradition, at least since Shakespeare.



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SpokenTruth said:
DolPhanTendo said:
It’s funny how people forget what my country has brought to the world because OUR NUMBER ONE BELIEF IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE and the right to pursuit happiness. Remember before the United States most of he people were enslaved or considered peasants under KINGS. Then my fore fathers wrote the greatest piece of paper and human advances took off.

Your ignorant thoughts on we aren’t a developed country is just wrong. And can’t belive this kind of crap is allowed here

Your bolded statements contradict each other.

That said, don't proclaim the US started the freedom movement without giving a nod to the likes of John Locke, Francis Bacon, Voltaire, etc....or Greece.  To say nothing of the genocide and enslavement of millions in the process (your underlined statement, lol).  Freedom...except for you red and brown people.  And women.  And non-Christians.  And homosexuals.  And...

Let’s go over freedom for a second since you don’t live here obiviously wit your ignorant statements. Red and brown lies used by Democrat party to keep non whites in ghettos, if you live by the constitution, as do I, you understand that isn’t a skin thing it’s a respect your fellow man thing. Women most women choose what makes them happy i. e. pursuit of happiness through biological needs. Just because cuck men don’t want to act like real men and do what’s right we have women playing both roles in today’s society thus we have a lot angry feminists. Non Christians hate Christians therefore they don’t allow or want freedom Christians so their beliefs aren’t accepted here Homosexuals have freedom some just want to be disrespectful in public and get called out on it 



DolPhanTendo said:
It’s funny how people forget what my country has brought to the world because OUR NUMBER ONE BELIEF IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE and the right to pursuit happiness. Remember before the United States most of he people were enslaved or considered peasants under KINGS. Then my fore fathers wrote the greatest piece of paper and human advances took off.

Your ignorant thoughts on we aren’t a developed country is just wrong. And can’t belive this kind of crap is allowed here

Nothing says "my number one belief is FREEDOM OF CHOICE" like expressing disbelief that Thoughtcrime is permissible.  

Thanks for sharing that Freudian Slip with us; now we know how you really feel about freedom.  



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KoiIroRazu said:
The U.S. currently has the 10th highest HDI (0.920 very high). Countries with an HDI of 0.8 or higher are considered as highly developed countries.

So, at least according to that definition, there's no debate that the U.S. is one of the most developed countries in the world. Of course, it has its fair share of political, social and economic problems, but as others said before, that pretty much goes for every country on the planet. However, it's only beneficial to be aware of and vocal about these problems as it helps to improve the country even further.

Also it is much easier to have high índex on homogene population, small country inland and people. The size of usa make a lot of room for variation. 



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I'm not American, but it seems like the individual states have more control over their own development than most other countries, so you can actually see social experiments playing out from one state to the next. From the outside, it looks like some states do well and others don't. Maybe the states that aren't doing well in terms of standards of living should implement policies of the states that are doing well?



DolPhanTendo said:
SpokenTruth said:

Your bolded statements contradict each other.

That said, don't proclaim the US started the freedom movement without giving a nod to the likes of John Locke, Francis Bacon, Voltaire, etc....or Greece.  To say nothing of the genocide and enslavement of millions in the process (your underlined statement, lol).  Freedom...except for you red and brown people.  And women.  And non-Christians.  And homosexuals.  And...

Let’s go over freedom for a second since you don’t live here obiviously wit your ignorant statements. Red and brown lies used by Democrat party to keep non whites in ghettos, if you live by the constitution, as do I, you understand that isn’t a skin thing it’s a respect your fellow man thing. Women most women choose what makes them happy i. e. pursuit of happiness through biological needs. Just because cuck men don’t want to act like real men and do what’s right we have women playing both roles in today’s society thus we have a lot angry feminists. Non Christians hate Christians therefore they don’t allow or want freedom Christians so their beliefs aren’t accepted here Homosexuals have freedom some just want to be disrespectful in public and get called out on it 

It's not hard to click one's profile to see their country of residence.

But thank you for this comedy of errors and follies.....that was just a parody, right?



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Locknuts said:
I'm not American, but it seems like the individual states have more control over their own development than most other countries, so you can actually see social experiments playing out from one state to the next. From the outside, it looks like some states do well and others don't. Maybe the states that aren't doing well in terms of standards of living should implement policies of the states that are doing well?

This is correct, but there are a multitude of factors why some states can do well (ports, tourism, access to natural resources) where others have to get creative to be appealing and succeed.



I wouldn't consider them a first world country in the same way as Western Europe or Japan, but they're not a quite a third world country despite having a lot of third-worldish areas; US ghettos make EU so-called "No Go zones" look like a picnic. The US is definitely drifting into the second world sphere (Russia) very rapidly though. They're also regressing from an Atomic/Information aged nation back into an industrial era state.

As far as a developed nation, I would say those include only those nations which have progressed ahead of the Industrial era, and are primarily in late Atomic/Information age settings. So not countries who want to be coal dependent and are against science and technology.

From what I gather, New England, New York, California, and Cascadia are all fairly first-world - but the "mid-west" and the south/Texas are more like third world countries.

So on one hand you have this, which is obviously first world:

And on the other you have this, which looks like a poor African country or Bosnia during war times - so somewhere between 2nd and 3rd world:

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