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USA has become a multicultural society so there are difference between different classes and ethnicities



At any rate, the very term "developed" reeks of colonial attitude.



Locknuts said:
I'm not American, but it seems like the individual states have more control over their own development than most other countries, so you can actually see social experiments playing out from one state to the next. From the outside, it looks like some states do well and others don't. Maybe the states that aren't doing well in terms of standards of living should implement policies of the states that are doing well?

Nope we will just let the failed states like Kansas fend for themselves with their terrible ideas gone awry.  Just look what Sam Brownback and the republican legislature did to the state.  They cut taxes like crazy thinking they could usher in new business to make up for the tax shortfall.  Well the new businesses never came (because it is Kansas) and they were left with huge deficits which they had to start cutting education like crazy.  Eventually the only people that will be left in Kansas are a bunch of dumb rednecks.  Kansas might as well be 3rd world country.

That tax cut plan sounds familiar doesn't it... We get to try it on a national level now.  Can't wait till we hit 50 trillion in debt and the dollar becomes worthless since everyone will have wised up that we will never pay back our debt and will only continue to borrow more money. 

The USA should be reducing its deficit during supposed "great" economic times yet we are increasing spending while hacking off the tax income.  Can't wait till the economy comes to a screeching halt and you start seeing deficits twice as big as the years after 08 crash.  So much for fiscal conservatism.  I could try their plan myself but I'd rather not increase my spending while reducing my take home pay.  I'm pretty sure I'd be screwed in a matter of months.

Last edited by sethnintendo - on 30 August 2018

By global standards, of course it is a developed country. By european standards ... hell no.



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Sorry, the "developed", "developing" dichotomy is based on Western European imperialism and colonialism. All countries are developing. The idea that some countries are "developed" and have no more advancement to be had in terms of social and economic conditions is laughably stupid.



sc94597 said:
Sorry, the "developed", "developing" dichotomy is based on Western European imperialism and colonialism. All countries are developing. The idea that some countries are "developed" and have no more advancement to be had in terms of social and economic conditions is laughably stupid.

Compare USA to North Korea.  One could say USA is developed compared to North Korea.



sethnintendo said:
sc94597 said:
Sorry, the "developed", "developing" dichotomy is based on Western European imperialism and colonialism. All countries are developing. The idea that some countries are "developed" and have no more advancement to be had in terms of social and economic conditions is laughably stupid.

Compare USA to North Korea.  One could say USA is developed compared to North Korea.

I do hope Kim Jong Un will do better for his people and his market now that he is more into direct contact with the west, a united Korea is a dream but some babysteps towards it would be awesome.



HomokHarcos said: 

Mississippi is pretty poor, and it's hard to think of it being a rich nation when you are in some of the inner cities or rural areas in the South.

Also, the crime rate and violence is much higher than the rest of the developed world. Looking at the intentional homicide rate also brings a similar view.

 

It's almost as if the high rates of violence are born out of poverty and extreme income inequality... or something. 



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RenCutypoison said:

It will seem unrelated at first but in EU it is usually considered that you can enter the EU if you are approximatively geographically attached to the rest of the Union and have most requirements to be considered a developped country (altough it's sometimes realy questionnable).

Given the enormous amount of underlying issues in US that are part of its foundations (as exposed in the OP), so appart from the GDP US in this highly hypothetical situation might be refused, thus considered "not a fully developped country".

I'd like to add that equality in the eyes of justice should be a requirement for developped country. Given the very well known racial bias in the US justice system (Though France is also concerned for example) and that one of the most important court in the US (immigration court) does not give a right to free counseling,  it's two more reasons for the US status as a developped country to be questionned.

Given Gdp per capita that of the US is twice as high as most European countries. Also so is the debt per capita. As for the racial tensions and bias those are very present in Europe also, just in a different way.  Just watch the tensionsbetween Turkey and NL/Germany for example. Same goes for sexism in that regard if you are a male you will probably get a harsher punishment for the same crime.



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