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melbye said:
I think it's a bigger problem that they are late. Having Wolfenstein and Doom on Switch is really cool and i think it's awesome for the people who enjoy those kind of games in handheld-mode, but that isn't really for me because it's not the kind of games i want to play in handheld-mode and i already own them on PS4.
You shouldn't need to justify what buy and don't buy, how you spend your money is entirely up to you

I was close to buying Wolfenstein II on PS4/PC but it came out during a busy time, and I don't mind waiting if it's only half a year and it's not a big release for me.
I have no choice but to get Dragon Quest XI on PS4 because God knows what Square Enix is doing with that, even though it was announced for Switch well in advance. And like many games, I would've just gotten it on PC if I didn't want a physical copy.

Now that I think about it, seems ironic that we're stitting here discussing value for money right after the steam summer sale just took place.



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Shaunodon said:
melbye said:
I think it's a bigger problem that they are late. Having Wolfenstein and Doom on Switch is really cool and i think it's awesome for the people who enjoy those kind of games in handheld-mode, but that isn't really for me because it's not the kind of games i want to play in handheld-mode and i already own them on PS4.
You shouldn't need to justify what buy and don't buy, how you spend your money is entirely up to you

I was close to buying Wolfenstein II on PS4/PC but it came out during a busy time, and I don't mind waiting if it's only half a year and it's not a big release for me.
I have no choice but to get Dragon Quest XI on PS4 because God knows what Square Enix is doing with that, even though it was announced for Switch well in advance. And like many games, I would've just gotten it on PC if I didn't want a physical copy.

Now that I think about it, seems ironic that we're stitting here discussing value for money right after the steam summer sale just took place.

I thought the same thing you did...till I was holding the 60 dollar version in my hand while looking at a 20 dollar version that runs better.  Day and date to at least match pricing would  have made all the difference in the world TBH.



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Shiken said:
Shaunodon said:

I was close to buying Wolfenstein II on PS4/PC but it came out during a busy time, and I don't mind waiting if it's only half a year and it's not a big release for me.
I have no choice but to get Dragon Quest XI on PS4 because God knows what Square Enix is doing with that, even though it was announced for Switch well in advance. And like many games, I would've just gotten it on PC if I didn't want a physical copy.

Now that I think about it, seems ironic that we're stitting here discussing value for money right after the steam summer sale just took place.

I thought the same thing you did...till I was holding the 60 dollar version in my hand while looking at a 20 dollar version that runs better.  Day and date to at least match pricing would  have made all the difference in the world TBH.

May mean a lot to you, but some people won't care about saving 40 dollars on a game they'll never find time to play. The whole concept and idea of having these games on Switch is for people who are out and busy a lot. If you have enough time to sit at home and play these games, then I'm not sure why you're using yourself as an example.



Shaunodon said:
Shiken said:

I thought the same thing you did...till I was holding the 60 dollar version in my hand while looking at a 20 dollar version that runs better.  Day and date to at least match pricing would  have made all the difference in the world TBH.

May mean a lot to you, but some people won't care about saving 40 dollars on a game they'll never find time to play. The whole concept and idea of having these games on Switch is for people who are out and busy a lot. If you have enough time to sit at home and play these games, then I'm not sure why you're using yourself as an example.

I game 3 to 4 hours sat and sun morn.  During the week I am only able to find about an hour to an hour and a half in the morning if I wake up at 3 am and stop around 4:20 am.  As far as console gaming goes, thats about all I can find time for, and that is IF I can pull myself out of bed.  After I get home from work at 3 pm, I spend my time with my kids and wife.  The only gametime I get in the evenings is a few random rounds of Fortnite with my stepson.

 

Believe me, the Switch's portability benefits me greatly.



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That's the reason I only have two Switch games. Too expensive/not worth it. I'd rather not play at all than to pay more for the same game (but worse).



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Shiken said:
Shaunodon said:

May mean a lot to you, but some people won't care about saving 40 dollars on a game they'll never find time to play. The whole concept and idea of having these games on Switch is for people who are out and busy a lot. If you have enough time to sit at home and play these games, then I'm not sure why you're using yourself as an example.

I game 3 to 4 hours sat and sun morn.  During the week I am only able to find about an hour to an hour and a half in the morning if I wake up at 3 am and stop around 4:20 am.  As far as console gaming goes, thats about all I can find time for, and that is IF I can pull myself out of bed.  After I get home from work at 3 pm, I spend my time with my kids and family.  The only gametime I get in the evenings is a few random rounds of Fortnite with my stepson.

 

Believe me, the Switch's portability benefits me greatly.

Based on those numbers it would probably take you at least 10 weeks just to finish a playthrough of Persona 5. By then Dragon Quest XI, Spider-Man, Xenoblade 2 expansion and several other games would be out, just a month before Red Dead 2.
Not even getting started on everything Monster Hunter World has to do, plus you bought 2 other rather large games, plus as you mentioned a huge backlog. Good luck.



Shaunodon said:
Shiken said:

I game 3 to 4 hours sat and sun morn.  During the week I am only able to find about an hour to an hour and a half in the morning if I wake up at 3 am and stop around 4:20 am.  As far as console gaming goes, thats about all I can find time for, and that is IF I can pull myself out of bed.  After I get home from work at 3 pm, I spend my time with my kids and family.  The only gametime I get in the evenings is a few random rounds of Fortnite with my stepson.

 

Believe me, the Switch's portability benefits me greatly.

Based on those numbers it would probably take you at least 10 weeks just to finish a playthrough of Persona 5. By then Dragon Quest XI, Spider-Man, Xenoblade 2 expansion and several other games would be out, just a month before Red Dead 2.
Not even getting started on everything Monster Hunter World has to do, plus you bought 2 other rather large games, plus as you mentioned a huge backlog. Good luck.

Based off of those hours, that is over 100 hrs by the end of aug in Persona 5.  Assassin's Creed games do not take me more than 40 so there is sep.  Monster Hunter World would be about another 100 so there is oct and nov.  Dragonball fighterz I can play here and there, as you can with any fighting game, but ima say 40 hours at least.

 

I never said I woud finish my entire backlog, I said I would finish the games I bought by the end of the year.  Starting Jan I tackle...

 

Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Spiderman

Days Gone is a priority

Xenoblade 2 Torna

Dragon Quest XI

Red Dead 2

 

Based off of those numbers, that is about 6 to 7 months covered.  Smash I will play on and off like FighterZ.  My numbers give me over 53 hours a month based on a 4 weekend month, more if there is a 5th weekend or a holiday.

 

Check your math, I will have plenty of time to play these games before the next wave of must play games hit the shelves.  Time management is key my friend.



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I think your thoughts on economics need to be questioned when you think you are getting the games for free because you are trading in a ps4.

Money can be exchanged for goods and services, but goods and services can also be exchanged for goods and services, at no point do the games become free, you are giving a system which has a resale value of €275, you are using that to get 165 worth of gamestop store credit to buy games, your choice to utilize the ease of gamestop to do this trade rather than selling your PS4 yourself for 110 more shows that you really have more worries than a switch title which came out last week costing 60 compared to the ps4 version which launched 9 months ago costing 20, had you invested the time to jump on a facebook group to sell the system you would have had enough to buy the switch versions of the games you wanted, but now you've added more titles to the backlog you have on the ps4 rather than on a system you can shove in your pocket to work through those games when you get a few minutes.

Just some food for thought.



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Shiken said:
Shaunodon said:

Based on those numbers it would probably take you at least 10 weeks just to finish a playthrough of Persona 5. By then Dragon Quest XI, Spider-Man, Xenoblade 2 expansion and several other games would be out, just a month before Red Dead 2.
Not even getting started on everything Monster Hunter World has to do, plus you bought 2 other rather large games, plus as you mentioned a huge backlog. Good luck.

Based off of those hours, that is over 100 hrs by the end of aug in Persona 5.  Assassin's Creed games do not take me more than 40 so there is sep.  Monster Hunter World would be about another 100 so there is oct and nov.  Dragonball fighterz I can play here and there, as you can with any fighting game, but ima say 40 hours at least.

 

I never said I woud finish my entire backlog, I said I would finish the games I bought by the end of the year.  Starting Jan I tackle...

 

Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Spiderman

Days Gone is a priority

Xenoblade 2 Torna

Dragon Quest XI

Red Dead 2

 

Based off of those numbers, that is about 6 to 7 months covered.  Smash I will play on and off like FighterZ.  My numbers give me over 53 hours a month based on a 4 weekend month, more if there is a 5th weekend or a holiday.

 

Check your math, I will have plenty of time to play these games before the next wave of must play games hit the shelves.  Time management is key my friend.

I don't need to check my math. If you want to finish Persona 5 in a little over 100 hours, then have fun speedrunning the main story. Never said you can't 'finish' 4 games before the end of the year, but I'm not sure why you mention a backlog if you plan to just ignore it.

Seems like my point of buying a couple games now, and then being able to get a new game once more have released just went right over your head. But I guess you have the master plan.



I think the Switch is great for first party games, ports of last gen games, indies and AA games like the Crash Trilogy and Octopath Traveler.