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I just want to play games.
Naughty Dog has always been superb with them, that's what I look to.
TLoU2 seems like will be another great thing after the absolute masterpiece the first was.



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I don't agree with starting a character's conception at something like race/gender/orientation. It will almost always come off as forced and patronizing.



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KLXVER said:
GameOverture said:
More diverse main characters are a good thing, because it means more perspectives can be explored in videogames. If we want games to be treated like art, maybe we should allow them to tackle subjects like homosexuality or motherhood (we had our fair share of fatherhood lately) and other stuff that straight white males don’t experience. Not saying straight white men should never be protagonists again, just that we don’t need to play the same dude with a different face in every AAA game.

Of course. All that is amazing stuff, but there will always be people who prefer to play as guys. Not because they are sexist, but maybe because they have an easier time to relate. So instead of telling them to fuck off and that they are toxic, just say something like "Well we are sorry you feel that way, but this is a story we are passionate about and want to tell. If you choose to not play it, we believe you are missing out on a great experience."

I don't really see anything SJW with the TLOU2 trailer personally. Seems like a natural progression of Ellies character. But these insults from the developer really rubs me the wrong way. I will still buy and enjoy the game day 1, but Im not ok with that kind of speaking.

are u sure you're reading the tweet right? it's very clearly aimed at people who are unjustifiably angry about having the OPTION to play as female not at dudes who like playing as dudes. those people are clearly either misogynists or trolls either way they don't really warrant any sort of respect from the devs. like fam i usually always opt as a male avatar when given the choice but that doesn't mean we're going to throw a fit when there's a female option.



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MetalGear_94 said:
KLXVER said:

Of course. All that is amazing stuff, but there will always be people who prefer to play as guys. Not because they are sexist, but maybe because they have an easier time to relate. So instead of telling them to fuck off and that they are toxic, just say something like "Well we are sorry you feel that way, but this is a story we are passionate about and want to tell. If you choose to not play it, we believe you are missing out on a great experience."

I don't really see anything SJW with the TLOU2 trailer personally. Seems like a natural progression of Ellies character. But these insults from the developer really rubs me the wrong way. I will still buy and enjoy the game day 1, but Im not ok with that kind of speaking.

are u sure you're reading the tweet right? it's very clearly aimed at people who are unjustifiably angry about having the OPTION to play as female not at dudes who like playing as dudes. those people are clearly either misogynists or trolls either way they don't really warrant any sort of respect from the devs. like fam i usually always opt as a male avatar when given the choice but that doesn't mean we're going to throw a fit when there's a female option.

So roll your eyes at them and move on with your life. Its that easy.



gooch_destroyer said:
Fear Effect 2 did the lesbian thing better anyways...

Much better fap material.



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Well I'm very anti SSJW agenda, but I don't think ND is actively pushing an agenda instead of simply looking to different ways to tell a story.



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KLXVER said:

When did this become acceptable? Developers telling gamers to fuck off and calling them toxic gamerbros? Sony has built their whole gaming division on many of these gamerbros. Just watch some of their commercials. Especially the Kevin Butler ones. 

Why not just explain why they made the trailer the way it is? I don't mind it, but some people found it confusing. Don't call them names and tell them to fuck off. Just explain it and Im sure many would get it.

you cant even be bothered to look into the context of the tweet, and yet feel you have the right to criticse it/ someone/ some people?

ok then...

The dude doesn't speak for ND. He speaks entirely for himself. He is a lighting artist, so he cant address the narrative/ content of the trailer. Besides, his comment had nothing to do with the TloU2 trailer.

Hes openly gay.  His comment was aimed at toxic gamers in general, regardless of what Robin 'i have nothing against homosexuals' would lead you to believe by purposely misinterpreting the tweet.



I just.....can't. This thread just isn't warranted (and some of you are also far more close-minded than I ever thought you were - but that's another story). I'd give a longer response, but I don't know if this is more comical or sad. The phrase "SJW"............. is...... really........ like a cancer, particularly for The Mod Team, and especially to many other users here. Thus, it helps make the decision to say 'goodbye' to this thread all the more easier.

PS, a few of you guys really brought a to my face as a result of this thread.