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So I found this video and it basically speaks about how naughty dog has been changing over the years to become more socially and politically conscious. I agree with most of the points made in this video and would love to know what you guys think. if you got time to spare, watch it till the end and share your thoughts.

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I am a male of African descent and the whole inclusive thing lately has felt more like being patronised. What are your thoughts?



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"Female roles in movies and games are being portrayed in stereotypical ways, focusing on their appearance more than any other strengths. I think I speak for myself and the majority of regular gamers that we honestly don't mind."

I just wanted to point out this quote here.



Though I dislike naughty dog in general. But even a friend of mine who is the biggest naughty dog fan boy agrees with that. I personally dont care about them at all but seeing that he would let naughty dog impregnate him and his mother I think its interesting that even he's starting to feel a bit bothered.

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There are different kinds of people in the world. And there are different kinds of people in the video game worlds. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Some will go out of their way to avoid variety, while others go out of their way to embrace it.

But I find a huge double standard with most critique against the inclusion of diversity, including the guy in the video.

We have hundreds and thousands of games with poorly written male characters.
Poorly written heterosexual relationships.
Poorly written white characters. Etc.

Female, bi/homosexual, black, asian, indian, etc character's DON'T have to be better written than their male/white, etc counterparts.

Uncharted 2 showed off a random prior relationship between Nate and Chloe that, in the words of the video creator describing Chloe's potential relationship with someone else "was so irrelevant when you keep in mind the the game's focus was just a treasure hunting adventure."
Exactly. They could have taken out that former romance part, and the game would have been the same. Not to mention that Nate's romance with Elena was already established in Uncharted 1. The exact same argument the video creator made about Chloe potentially being involved with another woman would have felt forced.

If doesn't check all the right boxes of Male, White, Heterosexual, etc, then he start to look for reason why this particular thing doesn't make sense, or why it's poorly written hence "clearly forced for an agenda".
I believe many people, including myself, do this subconsciously when something clearly stands out from the so called 'norm'. Because that's usually when we notice. But it's only a problem if we fail to take into account all the poorly written or irrelevant elements that fit the norm. And we should treat them both by the same standard.

Last edited by Hiku - on 03 July 2018

in the last of us part 2, I feel the kissing part was unnecessary. that's all what I think about it.



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deskpro2k3 said:
in the last of us part 2, I feel the kissing part was unnecessary. that's all what I think about it.

Because 2 girls can't kiss?



twintail said:
deskpro2k3 said:
in the last of us part 2, I feel the kissing part was unnecessary. that's all what I think about it.

Because 2 girls can't kiss?

if it was a dude and girl, or a dude and a dude. I'll still think it's unnecessary.



deskpro2k3 said:
twintail said:

Because 2 girls can't kiss?

if it was a dude and girl, or a dude and a dude. I'll still think it's unnecessary.

Then any time someone kissed in a movie trailer, you found it unnecessary? I'm not sure I understand your gripe.

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twintail said:
deskpro2k3 said:
in the last of us part 2, I feel the kissing part was unnecessary. that's all what I think about it.

Because 2 girls can't kiss?

can't see something bad about it



My only issue with the kiss scene in the TLOU2 trailer was that I was constantly thinking about how weird Elly look looks.
The kiss itself that cut right into a very violent scene was an interesting way to show the contrast between her life as a sweet and caring person, to the merciless and violent life she's forced to live.

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