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Ellie or vaccine?

Ellie 39 41.05%
 
Vaccine 56 58.95%
 
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John2290 said:
I'd save Ellie. The world is only as important as the people closest to me and if 99% of people I don't know had to be sacrificed to save someone close to me, so be it, this will obviously never happen in my life so I don't fully know how I would react or end up making the decision but I know Ellie would not be a sacrificial lamb for the potential of a world that is already fucked, that's for sure. The fact that the cure is only a potential is also a strong reason I'd save Ellie. I wouldn't trust anyone who would say otherwise to be quite honest but at the end of the day, someone who could sacrifice Ellie without hesitation is the person who should have been chosen for the job in the first place, the black chick should have done it herself and if I were in Joels shoes I'd save ellie but it'd probably nag at me enough to drive me into a shell of a person afterward.
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I'd pick the most logical choice.

Procreation.

                             
Qwark said:
The vaccine is al but guaranteed if you collect al the audio files: There is one that states that there have been a dozen of trials to extract a vaccine from someone who was immune. They all failed and there is no guarantee that extracting tissue from Ellie would. What is sure is that it will kill her. So the options boll down to sacrafice a Child for a small chance of extracting a cure and an even smaller chance to succesfully spread it a cross the country. Just imagine the monopolyposition in a world as scattered as the last of US if someone had a cure. No way that would get distributed fairly. Or to save a Child against her own wishes and believes. I would change the latter.                              

Save Ellie and hope she doesn't end up a lesbian. Growing up and becoming an adult, understanding how important she is, would probably be enough that even if she wasn't into dudes, she may be willing to 'do the deed' to procreate. Maybe if they were lucky they could find someone who could do in vitro fertilization? Either way I think trying to have a bunch of children and then doing whatever testing was necessary once they were old enough, to see if they were immune or not, would be the better way to go initially. If that didn't work, then Ellie could always decide to go all in and sacrifice herself at that point when the potential options have eventually run out.

BTW that Joel GIF is creepy AF. lol



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TheBird said:
Wait how do they build off of The Last of Us 1 for those players who chose the vaccine over Ellie. She is the main character in part 2.

There wasn't a choice. Everybody who finished the game saved Ellie.



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Qwark said:
The vaccine is al but guaranteed if you collect al the audio files: There is one that states that there have been a dozen of trials to extract a vaccine from someone who was immune. They all failed and there is no guarantee that extracting tissue from Ellie would. What is sure is that it will kill her. So the options boll down to sacrafice a Child for a small chance of extracting a cure and an even smaller chance to succesfully spread it a cross the country. Just imagine the monopolyposition in a world as scattered as the last of US if someone had a cure. No way that would get distributed fairly. Or to save a Child against her own wishes and believes. I would change the latter.

This is basically why I would save her. 

It’s not a simple question of saving Ellie vs. everyone else (in which case I would most likely concede that she is worth the sacrifice).

The successful creation of the vaccine was in question. Then the likelihood of unbiased distribution. Then the benefit of immunising everyone is doubtful, given the number/percentage of zombies created (who are deadly without infection). Then whether there was humanity left enough to save?

Given the circumstances, Ellie living on as a decent human being is a bigger contribution to the survival of our humanity. 



In that position, I think I would have chosen the vaccine, but I understand why Joel chose to save Ellie and won't fault him for it.



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TheBird said:
Wait how do they build off of The Last of Us 1 for those players who chose the vaccine over Ellie. She is the main character in part 2.

There is no choice. Ellie lives. That's the story.



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Depends on her will, so probably yes.



Thing is, ellie saved joel life 3 times in the game, kinda ridiculously overdone , but i guess that what makes joel love her cause she cares about him so much, that she risks her life for him many times, plus the bond they formed together, and him losing his daughter. what the fireflies did was wrong though they should told ellie first and make her deicde, and if that didn't work then they could force her as the second option.

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d21lewis said:

A few things.

1. She wasn't his daughter. She was his assignment.

2. Humanity was at risk. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Don't you Star Trek?

3. He had to lie to her. If his actions were noble, he could let her decide.

 

  • 4. In saving Ellie, Joel killed several people. Doctors who were just doing their job. Who made the decision to do what was best for humanity. Joel killed them without hesitation.

 

 

Would I sacrifice my adopted daughter? I have a real daughter and, for the greater good, I'd sacrifice myself for them. If she grew up and joined the military, I'd respect her wishes and I'd understand why she would be willing to risk it all. I understand that Joel lost his real daughter at the beginning of the game and maybe he saw Ellie as someone who could fill the void but, in the end, he was selfish. He didn't even give "his child" an option.

1. True but you can still care an awful lot about that if she is pretty much one of the few people which doesn't want to murder you for recources. 

 

2. Is humanity really worth saving though. 

 

3. Do you think a 14 year old Child is capable  enough to make such a decission and understand the impact of such a decission. Also Firefly never mentioned the failed trials to extract a cure from tissue from immune persons. Neither did tel the truth in that regard. 

 

 4. Technically speaking you did kill them. Since you could get what you want without killing them. 

4. No, I had to kill them. I was bloodlusting or something. I couldn't stop myself!



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I'd pick the most logical choice.

Procreation.

You mean you'd fuck Ellie? Yeah she's kind of cute and as long as you don't force her... But this is not what is asked here, also she's gay...

Anyway it's weird to see this question asked so many years after that game's been released but sure why not.

So I'd save Ellie any day, she is NOT responsible for what happens to mankind, it's NOT her job or destiny to die to save others. Killing her would be murdering a healthy human.

If you guys think life is just a mathematical equation where you can kill one to save others, you have serious issues with your moral compass, which is kind of expected from the masses I guess.

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mysteryman said:

This is basically why I would save her. 

It’s not a simple question of saving Ellie vs. everyone else (in which case I would most likely concede that she is worth the sacrifice).

It's not your call to sacrifice a human even if it's to save others. Ellie is healthy and sacrificing her as you put it is murdering her. I guess we all have our opinions but let me tell you that yours is horrible... If happening in reality of course. But the way you and others seriously answer this question makes me think you mean this, should a similar situation happen in real life.

If you need to spill blood of the innocent to allow others to live, that voids any kind of decency those people could have. I would HATE to know that someone, especially a child had to be sacrificed so I could live. It is so fundamentally wrong that I staunchly reject such a notion.



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