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I know what it’s like to be known a bit too much and outside of your personal construct. Also what it is like to be completely shunned by what seemed like everyone around me for events taken out of context and I never would have anticipated. We all grow and are shaped in a variety of ways and have no control over it. Any of us can go out in the world and be in an accident, have a parent pass away, have a bad school semester, lose a job, etc. Many people have to leave their countries and start anew because of a variety of reasons they may not have expected. Life moves and shapes us at will. It is our path, our destiny. In many ways you should embrace it as your path, your growth. Many famous people have accepted and embraced early deaths at the hands of society because their path was clear and out of their hands. Yes you are you, but no matter how hard you try to control, life will either force you to grow and down your path, or you will be miserable trying to fight against it.

Always be true to yourself, but don’t worry, and don’t give into the rumors or hateful words. If you embrace your path and put your fears aside, then what will be will be and you will rise above the rumors and hate and become a symbol. A more complete and happy you. 



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LordLichtenstein said:

I really don't want to get into the specifics as to why/how I became "famous" in my home country, what I want though, is to say that every since I did, my social anxiety has gotten much worse, to the point that I haven't left my apartment in nearly a month, with the exception of grocery shopping 1-2 times a week. I feel extremely isolated, both physically and mentally, because I constantly have to walk on eggshells - trying not to hurt or offend anyone. It is a frustrating way to live..

I have received an enormous amount of praise over the last 1½ year, not only from the people of my country, but the national and international media as well. And while it is humbling, it is also quite scary. E.g. after I did a podcast on BBC in March, I received a lot of nice and kind messages on Facebook, but also some negative ones, telling me to go "fuck myself", "commit suicide" etc. I know they are in the minority, but I still can't help but let it get to me. 

To be honest, I don't know why I'm writing this, here of all places. Perhaps I just felt like telling someone..


It takes a certain type of personality to even want to be famous. As everybody else I too (when I was younger cause I matured since then) was dreaming of being famous, well not dreaming of it but I thought about it, especially when seeing someone successful and loved, like a movie actor...

Nowadays it is easier than ever before to become famous, well it's still not going to happen for the average Joe but with a bit of talent and know-how anyone can start a Youtube channel and if both talent and luck are on your side, anyone can become a recognizable face and have a consequent community of followers, sometimes big enough to consider yourself publicly famous (PewDiePie, Boogie2988, Vsauce etc...)

But fame is a double trap: First to yourself. The reason one needs fame is to be recognized and influential. In psychology, people that need to be strong on the outside (fame and glory) are usually weak on the inside, they can't function by themselves, they lack independence and so they need to feel they are the center of something important. Usually such people have money and can pay for servants, domestics, butlers and whatnot and they can't stand loneliness, someone must be around them at all times to see what they do and acknowledge their existence...

And second, fame is a trap because of its inherent dangers such as stalkers, crazies, threats etc which seem to happen EVERY time someone becomes famous and the more famous a person, the bigger the amount of crazies in their wake...

This situation has pros and cons: The pros being that the famous person enjoys a special status inherent to his/her celebrity. In my experience the more famous a person is the more haughty and arrogant that person becomes. Try to have a conversation with someone famous on social media and see how it goes. It's extremely rare that a famous person even replies to your tweet or post, like why are they on a social network that is SPECIFICALLY designed to communicate and reply if they're going to make it a one way experience of them saying stuff and ignoring everybody that replies?

I have managed to have short conversations with people that have limited fame and are not very important but the more they grow in importance the more they will ignore you. Try to have a conversation with super famous people and see if they will EVER reply, like George Clooney or Leonardo Di Caprio. You are shit to them, you don't exist, you are a worm not even worth trampling . They will only talk to important/rich/powerful people, marry such people, befriend such people etc...

On the other hand people that are strong on the inside (independent, not needing social approval, not giving in to cultural or peer pressure etc...) are weak on the outside, have no influence on anyone, are anonymous and in some cases (like mine) are isolated and end up comfy in such isolation, seek it and love it like I do (Yes I am a western Hikikomori). The last thing someone like me wants is fame. I'd be very uncomfortable just having my real name and face on VGC so imagine having my name and face followed by millions? What a nightmare to me!

And that's another con of fame I forgot to mention: The more famous you are the more judged you are. Everything and anything you do will be scrutinized, analyzed and judged. Oh this famous guy checked a porn site according to the press, how scandalous, this famous guy has a strong political opinion, this famous person has a girlfriend he's not married to or cheated on his wife/her husband etc... This is insane, famous people are still people why couldn't they have controversial opinions, check out porn sites, cheat etc? This is perhaps the biggest reason I don't ever want to be famous. I want to be able to do whatever I want without it being a media scandal. Yet famous people would NEVER give up their fame cause they are ADDICTED TO IT and don't care about the negative impact on their lives. I suppose the same could be said of politicians but that's another debate.

I want to finish this long post by making clear that I am speaking of fame and famous people in GENERAL, I am not saying this is exactly you or your story LordLichtenstein, I don't know you and cannot speak of your specific situation, I'm GENERALIZING here. (Exception made of that paragraph where I speak of the opposite and hikikomori people like me cause obviously I know myself and so I can speak of myself).

Last edited by CrazyGamer2017 - on 27 June 2018

I'm really sorry you're going through this. Sometimes it's hard no to listen or care what other people say about you, but the important thing is that you're doing something great, not only for yourself but for other people. You should take the high road, be happy and proud of yourself.

No matter how good of a person your are, some people will criticize and say negative things about you. Keep up the good work.



It seems that from your loneliness something good arose: you found comfort in other and others found comfort in you.
Who said that people suffer in vain? It seems you found your call: who better than someone who suffers, to understand those who suffer and help them? :)
Don't let your pains be in vain…

There's two things you can always do when going through hard times: given in and let those feelings control you and dictate your life or you can not give in and you use it to improve yourself - and others.
The choice is always yours.

Find your way to handle this thing you are going through now.
Go out when there's few people outsider, if it helps (at night or really early). And then take a bigger step.
Sorry for the exemple, but imagine you are quitting smoking: you can stop alltogether or you can take babysteps. Make goals for yourself that you know you can achieve.

Last but not least, as a Christian, i believe that what we grow threw (the good and the bad) are not bigger than us. They exist to make us better people and bring us closer to God - again, the good and the bad.
Don't be afraid to embrace the bad and accept it. You can do it!



LordLichtenstein said:



“I am desperate to meet new friends. I’m lonely and going through the hardest period of my life. I’ll sit on the stairs in front of the town hall from 2pm to 8pm. I have black pants and a North Face bag on.” – written December 7th 2016.

I wrote this message on an app called Jodel, a European equivalent of Yik Yak. It is an anonymous forum, where you can write about almost anything and where anyone within 10 kilometers can see your message and reply. 
I had no idea at the time, that this very short message would fundamentally change my life as well as thousands of others.

I have lived more than half of my childhood and youth life in orphanages. An anxious upbringing with defeat, insecurity and violent assaults that have made me the person I am today; a person with very poor self-esteem and a deep inner sense of identitylessness. In September of 2016 my girlfriend of 6 years cheated on me and left me shortly after. My whole world came crumbling down and I was on the edge of suicide, and I got admitted to the local psychiatric hospital, but was released after an intense week of care and treatment.

I never had many friends and those few I had, I stopped seeing after my now ex-girlfriend and I got together back in 2010. I know, stupid. But
 there I was – with no family, friends or girlfriend. I was all alone. And in my desperation, I decided to write and send out the message you see above.



A lot of people read my cry for help and came to my aid – no less than 13 strangers decided to show up and give their support. I was so overwhelmed with joy, that I had to fight back tears. 
Many of them confided in me throughout the evening and told me that they too had felt the heart-wrenching pain of loneliness, but were too afraid of reaching out because of the stigma surrounding it.

The meeting went viral in Denmark and the next day I was contacted by Radio24syv, one of the largest public service radio stations in Denmark. I was also contacted by the biggest TV stations as well as numerous papers. 

At first I declined their offers, as I was afraid of the stigma and taboo, but after much serious thought, I decided to tell my story – not for myself, but for the good of others. I knew something had to be done about the increasing loneliness rates in Denmark (statistics show, that more than 350.000 Danes often feel lonely), so I took it upon myself to make a change.



I then started a free nationwide peer-to-peer network/nonprofit organization where lonely people could find new friends and someone who they could relate to. A network where you were applauded for showing your weaknesses and vulnerability. A network where we as a community would stand together against the taboo that is loneliness.



To help new members getting settled, I would invite them into my home each week for dinner, game nights or parties. It was very important to me, that every member had a good first time experience and would leave feeling part of a community.

By March 2017 (4 months after launch) the network had grown to 10.000 members and I had made the decision to drop out of my education as a programmer. It was not an easy decision, but a necessary one, as I wanted to commit 100% to my voluntary work.



In April 2017 I raised awareness about loneliness and mental health in Denmark by completing a 300 km relay walk from Copenhagen to Aarhus over the course of 10 days. 
The concept was; that under no circumstances was I allowed to walk, unless accompanied by another person. Through my walk I wanted to emphasize the importance of human interaction, social responsibility and community. Luckily for me, more than 70 people chose to support my cause by either walking with me or offering me accommodation and food. I only had to stand still twice during my walk, which was better than expected. 

All my efforts has since made the ambassador of the People's Movement Against Loneliness, one of Denmark's largest 
associations. Together we have decided to make 'March Against Loneliness' an annual event. 

A few months ago i completed this year's March Against Loneliness with the help of 350 people, an increase of 400% from last year's walk.


Holy shit I just got such a sense of deja vu. Did you already post this on the site before, or did I see you on the news even in America?



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Focus on the people who knew you and liked you before getting famous.



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It seems that you have more social contact than most here, so your problem is elsewhere.

The older you get the less important your number of casual friends get, because family, work etc takes over your life.



mZuzek said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Holy shit I just got such a sense of deja vu. Did you already post this on the site before, or did I see you on the news even in America?

He posted it here a while ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8625496

 

very similar about it yeah back in November



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Fame can indeed make you feel more lonely. Especially if you get more contact/interactions from people that know you far less than your immediate circle of friends/family. But because modern humans in Western society are so busy with the daily grind, it can get quickly skewed to where your most common interactions are actually bite-sized moments with basically strangers, well-meaning as they may be, and who know things about your public persona and this creates preconceptions for them that color their exchanges with you.

It's just a strange phenomenon. I may have some similar experiences. I was something of a child star (national media coverage in US in print, TV, magazine, etc, and international attention from Japan), and it burned me out pretty fiercely. I did my best to move on, only to be dragged by a very well meaning old friend into a documentary nearly ten years ago now, and which has renewed this kind of attention, interviewers, visitors to my house from strangers, etc.

I have no animosity, and am quite moved by some of these exchanges, but it remains a surreal feeling, and kind of depressing in some ways. I lost my wife last August to a car accident, leaving my 11 year old son suddenly without that part of his life. I am privately fighting a long term illness and do not want to add this burden to my family or the fans and friends who mostly know me for the more optimistic public persona that I carry.

We do our best, what else can we do?



Well damn I should have read all the pages.

You practically gave away in the OP what you famous for, BBC Podcast + March + Denmark lol

Being famous is a short term high which is hard to handle as its a quick rush, especially for an introvert, you really need to be egotistic to love a lot of attention and praise, normal people it drains on them. Unfortunately in the world that we live in, the more famous you are the more tired you get as all that attention is tiring and you have to be careful what you say (the internet has connected us and there is little were we can escape to) and it can be draining. You also need a thick skin to block out the negativity or that mentally drains you even further as the brain is not resting. Even on a smaller scale whether it is work or social events, we put on a persona that fits that circle so that we feel connected and part of that group. Other the years we develop man personas that we use with different groups.

We are truly ourselves when alone but then from being alone and boredom we start wondering why we are alone and whether there is something wrong.

It's a never ending cycle of wanting to be liked and then being over exhausted from too much attention.