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Is one big game for an entire year acceptable?

Yes. 1 1.52%
 
No. 30 45.45%
 
It isn't the only big game this year. 35 53.03%
 
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AlfredoTurkey on 24 June 2018

The elephant in the room is the fact that it's an enhanced port of Smash 4.



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PAOerfulone on 24 June 2018
AlfredoTurkey said:

The elephant in the room is the fact that it's an enhanced port of Smash 4.

The elephant in the room is wearing a banner that says: "Congratulations, you're wrong."



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VGPolyglot on 24 June 2018
Cerebralbore101 said:

BO3 on PS3/360 only had multiplayer. The PS3 and PS4 versions were not the same game. 

You're making this way too complicated just to fit what you want to have as the narrative, rule on-top of rule on-top of rule.



kirby007 on 24 June 2018

How is this still being discussed? You cant change the way of thinking of one so set in stone he could literally could be the immovable object.



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Shaunodon on 24 June 2018
Cerebralbore101 said:
RolStoppable said:

Also, Bloodborne isn't third party.

Furthermore, Arkham Knight and Disgaea 5 sucked, so they need to be taken off the list.

BO3 on PS3/360 only had multiplayer. The PS3 and PS4 versions were not the same game. 

I took Bayonetta 2 off the list of my last thread, because it wasn't entirely first party. So for Bloodborne I'll have to include it, in order to stick to the same rules. 

But yes, MGSV was on PS3. Forgot about that one. 

PS4's second year... 


Witcher 3
Bloodborne
Fallout 4
Batman Arkham Knight
Mortal Kombat X
Black Ops III
Disgaea 5

Switch's second year...
Octopath Traveler
Travis Strikes Back
Valkyria Chronicles 4

I'd be shocked if half the people who buy Call of Duty ever touch anything but Multiplayer. That is Call of Duty in essence.

So you took Bayonetta 2 off because it's not entirely first party, but you left Bloodborne on when it's not entirely third party???
I don't think you even understand what following a rule means at this point.



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Cerebralbore101 on 24 June 2018
PwerlvlAmy said:
The problem is here is with the way some of the logic is being thrown around. There seems to be a bit of goal post moving. One minute the argument is about Switch/Nintendo not having any big games this year(other than Smash), then when called out on it with a list of Indies,first party,third party ports, the argument switches to ''well those don't count because I don't consider them big'' or ''Late ports don't count''. We can't have it multiple ways here. Its one of the other.

It's in the thread title. Nintendo's only big game this year. As in the only big game developed by Nintendo. I seriously underestimated the amount of people that were looking forward to Mario Party, and Let's Go. I thought those games being stinkers was unanimous. 

Oh well, next time I make a thread, I'll be sure to be more specific, and type a super long post that covers everything ahead of time. I'll also, try to keep in mind that not everyone thinks exactly like me. 



zorg1000 on 24 June 2018
DarthMetalliCube said:

Yeah it's odd, especially now that they have an extra development pipeline who used to handle the handheld side of things to help crank out additional games. Like, what are these guys spending all this time doing? Luckily there's still a backlog of already released and future 2nd and 3rd party releases I want to pick up, as well as a sprinkling of indies, so I'm pretty set for awhile anyway. Though, not all Nintendo fans hold off so much on buying games like I do, and are going to be looking for more big name titles like Mario Odyssey, Zelda BoW, and Xenoblade. At least Octopath is finally coming later this year, and I'm actually sort of looking forward to trying the new Mario Party with my friends and family.

Well there was always going to be a bit of a transition period where their partners that had primarily worked on handheld titles would need to adjust to HD development.

Some examples would be Alpha Dream or Grezzo. These are both small studios that have never released an HD game before and their most ambitious projects were mid-range 3DS titles.

It will likely take a while before they can release a game on Switch that isnt a small eshop title so they are continuing to work on 3DS titles in the meantime.



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VGPolyglot on 24 June 2018
Cerebralbore101 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
The problem is here is with the way some of the logic is being thrown around. There seems to be a bit of goal post moving. One minute the argument is about Switch/Nintendo not having any big games this year(other than Smash), then when called out on it with a list of Indies,first party,third party ports, the argument switches to ''well those don't count because I don't consider them big'' or ''Late ports don't count''. We can't have it multiple ways here. Its one of the other.

It's in the thread title. Nintendo's only big game this year. As in the only big game developed by Nintendo. I seriously underestimated the amount of people that were looking forward to Mario Party, and Let's Go. I thought those games being stinkers was unanimous. 

Oh well, next time I make a thread, I'll be sure to be more specific, and type a super long post that covers everything ahead of time. I'll also, try to keep in mind that not everyone thinks exactly like me. 

I don't believe you, this is not your first thread, in fact you just made another yesterday I believe which had the same issue of your rules and criteria.



Cerebralbore101 on 24 June 2018
Shaunodon said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

BO3 on PS3/360 only had multiplayer. The PS3 and PS4 versions were not the same game. 

I took Bayonetta 2 off the list of my last thread, because it wasn't entirely first party. So for Bloodborne I'll have to include it, in order to stick to the same rules. 

But yes, MGSV was on PS3. Forgot about that one. 

PS4's second year... 


Witcher 3
Bloodborne
Fallout 4
Batman Arkham Knight
Mortal Kombat X
Black Ops III
Disgaea 5

Switch's second year...
Octopath Traveler
Travis Strikes Back
Valkyria Chronicles 4

I'd be shocked if half the people who buy Call of Duty ever touch anything but Multiplayer. That is Call of Duty in essence.

So you took Bayonetta 2 off because it's not entirely first party, but you left Bloodborne on when it's not entirely third party???
I don't think you even understand what following a rule means at this point.

Both games Nintendo/Sony owns the IP. They should be treated the same. 

Even if you took out BO3, that's still double the amount of 3rd party support the Switch is getting this year. 

Edit: I'm done with this thread now. If you don't understand that Sony/MS clearly get vastly better 3rd party support than Nintendo, then I don't know what to tell you. That's a fact of the industry, and has been for over two decades. 

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PwerlvlAmy on 24 June 2018
Shaunodon said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
The problem is here is with the way some of the logic is being thrown around. There seems to be a bit of goal post moving. One minute the argument is about Switch/Nintendo not having any big games this year(other than Smash), then when called out on it with a list of Indies,first party,third party ports, the argument switches to ''well those don't count because I don't consider them big'' or ''Late ports don't count''. We can't have it multiple ways here. Its one of the other.

That's the thing about games being subjective. What's big to you or me isn't necessarily big to someone else and vice versa in the other direction, a game myself or someone else finds insignificant and small might not be that way for someone else. All down to personal opinion and no facts are involved, only emotions and feelings based off our own perspective of what we feel is right.

Is the OP wrong? not necessarily. Again thats just something opinion based, even though, I, myself, disagree. However it's his personal opinion based off his own likes and dislikes, so that does not inherently make him wrong or even right factually. I personally do not find Smash to be this years ''big AAA title'' whatsoever and that's because I'm not a huge fan of the franchise as a whole, I think its fun but overrated. Now other people will rip that up and be mad at it and thats fine because thats the beauty of subjective and opinions, we all have one and in our own minds, we are all correct.

TLDR version:

At the end of the day were bickering over something that's entirely fickle and meaningless. It's all subjective and nothing factual can be found as far as what's ''big'' and what games ''matter''. The only truth here is that Switch doesn't have a drought,Switch DOES have a ton of games this year, The only thing that separates us atm is whether they're ''big'' or ''meaningful'' or not and in the end, that's just down to our own needs,self wants only. This does not have a definitive answer. So hopefully we can continue simmering down and talk about the games we actually are looking forward to rather than griping about them, because when we do that, it leaves us less time to play our games!

PS. I lied. That wasn't a TLDR version.

Your TLDR needs a TLDR haha.

and then ill turn that TLDR into a TLDR and the pattern continues.



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