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curl-6 said:
HintHRO said:

Why immediately make a direct correlation between gaming 3 hours a day and behavioural impairment? That is called bias. 

Because while the two are not one and the same, there is a correlation between time spent gaming and it becoming a disorder. It would be hard for it to reach the level of a disorder if you only played an hour a day.

If a social dysfunctional person spends 3 hours on video games and 3 hours on social media every day (look around you outside, everybody is always looking at their smartphone), then you cannot say that 3 hours of gaming are the direct cause it. It can be part video games, part social media. It can be only smartphone. The cause can be totally something else. 



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HintHRO said:
curl-6 said:

Because while the two are not one and the same, there is a correlation between time spent gaming and it becoming a disorder. It would be hard for it to reach the level of a disorder if you only played an hour a day.

If a social dysfunctional person spends 3 hours on video games and 3 hours on social media every day (look around you outside, everybody is always looking at their smartphone), then you cannot say that 3 hours of gaming are the direct cause it. It can be part video games, part social media. It can be only smartphone. The cause can be totally something else. 

Let's be real here; we all love gaming, but anyone who says it can never have negative effects is kidding themselves. Now, this doesn't imply that we as gamers are disordered, any more than suggesting that too much alcohol is unhealthy implies that everyone who enjoys wine is disordered. Pointing out that something is a problem when it severely impacts one's day to day functionality is not in the least bit controversial, it's simply common sense.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 20 June 2018

What an idiot, he basically can't tell the difference between having a beer while watching a football game and being a full-blown alcoholic. The WHO has never stated that videogames in general are bad or detrimental to your health and no one is "under attack". But videogame addiction is very, very real and a growing problem, I'm really happy that the WHO finally classed this as a diagnosis, my job will become a lot easier now in many cases.



dx11332sega said:
At 5:30 he talks about people that are in there facebook most of the time or twitter how come theres is not a disorder ? also IDK what he's trying to say about 5:00 mark at anything can be seen as a mental disorder ?

Video games tap into the same mechanisms as facebook, instragram, twitter etc. do actually. It taps into your rewards center, and especially social networks are (like a lot of mobile games) literally made to be addictive. So yes, there is a disorder associated with social networks but it's usually under an umbrella term like 'internet addiction'.

Farsala said:
curl-6 said:

That's not what they're saying.

Gaming disorder as defined by the WHO is "characterized by impaired control over gaming, increasing priority given to gaming over other activities to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other interests and daily activities, and continuation or escalation of gaming despite the occurrence of negative consequences. For gaming disorder to be diagnosed, the behaviour pattern must be of sufficient severity to result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning and would normally have been evident for at least 12 months."

Nobody is saying that playing video games in your spare time is a disorder. What they're saying is that when it reaches the level of an addiction that severely and detrimentally impacts your ability to function, then it's a problem. And they're correct.

Curious, do they say the same thing for TV, books, movies, or any other entertainment?

See what I wrote above, video games tap into your brains reward center ant that's what can make them addictive and lead to a disorder. Tv, books and movies don't do this as much and and don't build a self-fullfilling cicle in the same way video games do, because they aren't interactive.

Other things that work off a similar mechanism though are, internet, sex, food, gambling or shopping addictions. Most of wich don't quite get as dangerous as gaming, because gaming has no 'come down' point and literally makes you neglect your bodies needs. That's why people die of dehydration while gaming, but not neccessarily while shopping.

In any case, everything that taps ino your rewards center and is available in unlimited quantities has the potential to become addicting. We are talking about extreme cases though.



dx11332sega said:
Is this mental disorder getting a pill ? Are we getting a pill for watching to much tv? or using to much internet?IDK if pill is needed?

As someone who owns shares from Eli Lilly, yes, it is; and yes, you do :D

(just half-serious, of course)



 

 

 

 

 

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No need to name it. They have a name for too many diseases/disorders/conditions.

This is no need to name all these addictions. Whether its a gaming addiction, porn addiction, phone addiction, facebook, ect. It's all the same. It's an addiction. A different type of addiction than like a drug addiction, but still an addiction.



dx11332sega said:
At 3:37 of video he admits then says he games 8 hours a day Which I think why hes offended ?

I wish I could play 8 hours a day...



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BraLoD said:
zorg1000 said:

Just one of many examples, an 8 year old who spends all his free time playing games on his tablet rather than playing with other kids would fit the bill as well.

Why?

You decide what the kid preffer is wrong and thus it is mentally sick?

Everybody is free to choose with what they spend their time on.

Do you know if the kid's friends mistreats him? If he dislike what they like to do? If the kid finds them boring?

Nope, just pull the crazy gun, it's easier.

Do you like having sex more than anything else and like to do it often? Crazy bastard, you are unfit for society!

Addiction is one thing, mental disorder is another.

You do realize there is a sex addiction too?

Doing anything for 8 hours a day would be an addiction. It could be gaming, reading, watching tv, or it could even be something healthy like working out even. There was a story I watched on tv once where a guy rode his indoor bike basically all day long. The entire time he was working from home, he would be peddling. He had an addiction, a mental disorder, whatever you want to call it.

If you game 8 hours a day, or NEED to game even a couple hours a day, you have an addiction. If you can't go without something, you have a problem.



BraLoD said:
zorg1000 said:

Just one of many examples, an 8 year old who spends all his free time playing games on his tablet rather than playing with other kids would fit the bill as well.

Why?

You decide what the kid preffer is wrong and thus it is mentally sick?

Everybody is free to choose with what they spend their time on.

Do you know if the kid's friends mistreats him? If he dislike what they like to do? If the kid finds them boring?

Nope, just pull the crazy gun, it's easier.

Do you like having sex more than anything else and like to do it often? Crazy bastard, you are unfit for society!

Addiction is one thing, mental disorder is another.

Holy shit, way to blow things way out of proportion and put words in my mouth. I said if he spends ALL his time playing games as in from the time he gets home from school to the time he goes to bed or all day every weekend & summer/winter vacations.

And yes craving sex so much to the point where its all you care about is a disorder.



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So basically, this means that people with a severe gaming addiction can get help more easily.

Why does this offend so many people? Shouldn't gamers be happy that their issues are getting more attention?