Agreed. Don't forget MK games have very long legs. MK7 is still charting in the top 50 and has been released about 7 years ago.

I don't see a Mario Kart 9 being released on the current gen, given the numbers MK8D is doing as of now.

For fucks sake people. Mario Kart should not be in the same category as fucking Gran Turismo. Mario isn't even a racing game. It's car combat.

#goalpostshifting.

Last time I checked, Mario Kart was considered a racing game. The goal is to finish first. It's arcade racing.

What type of game are Diddy Kong Racing and Crash Team Racing?

There's really no reason not to compare various racing titles. That's like saying we shouldn't compare NBA Playgrounds with 2K because one is cartoony, arcade-style basketball. I'd really love to be having a discussion about future sales of another Nintendo racing title right now, but Nintendo dropped the ball with E3.

VVV

All this online multiplayer is annouying.
Even though in a racer it makes more sense than most games (imo).

Not everything has to be online focused, and the sooner both MS & Sony realise that the better.

Sorry but decline already started with GT5 as GT5 was the first title of past gen and should have done as much or even better as GT3 did on PS2. There is no point in denying that. Also the PS2 userbase was way lower than the PS3 one when GT3 was released in early 2001 vs. GT5 in late 2010. Timing of a release within a console lifecycle is essential in these kind of analysis. Would GT5 been released in the beggining of 2007 and GT6 in 2010/11, sales would have been completely different.

That said, let's not forget the decline in the genre itself. Racing simulator is not as hyped as it was 15 years ago.

Sony has no problem realizing that, God of War and Detroit only just came out.

GT became stale though and something had to change. Everyone keeps saying GT7 could have sold much more, yet could it really. Give GT6 the 4K treatment, add more cars, a few new tracks, would it really have sold that much more? Kids are more interested in collecting skins than cars nowadays. Racing games aren't cool anymore, there are plenty other things around with realistic looking graphics.

PD also miscalculated what most people want to do in a car game which is play bumper cars. The whole sport section is geared to driving clean, which is a niche of a niche. Of the 6% people that use sport mode, less than 10% manage to keep it clean often enough to get the highest safety rating, which still doesn't show all that great sportmanship. So about 0.6% of the user base is actually attempting to use the game as PD intended :/

I wonder of OnRush is selling. That seems more geared to the play style of the majority. It rolled into 34th place first week in the UK...

I wish people would stop using number players = copies sold.

MK8 for example sold over 9 million copies you can bet the numbers of players would double, triple that at the very least since the switch can have 8 accounts. Plus Mario is usually bought by families. One copy can be played by the parents, the kids, the cousins....etc

Number of players = your game flopped but let just show them inflated numbers to make it look better.