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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 2 June 2018

Ljink96 said:
Interesting to see Switch hasn't slipped up yet, considering it hasn't gotten very decent games lately.
Well at the start of the year Switch would sell +200k weekly, but lately it's been doing around 170k a week. Still good of course, especially when it's about to get a large amount of games in June/July. However at this pace, Switch is going to need the last 5 months of the fiscal year to be killer for that 20m shipped target.

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Lonely_Dolphin said:
Ljink96 said:
Interesting to see Switch hasn't slipped up yet, considering it hasn't gotten very decent games lately.
Well at the start of the year Switch would sell +200k weekly, but lately it's been doing around 170k a week. Still good of course, especially when it's about to get a large amount of games in June/July. However at this pace, Switch is going to need the last 5 months of the fiscal year to be killer for that 20m shipped target.

Yeah, I mean more of lately it hasn't really gone below 170k, which like you said, is still great. I think that between Pokemon, Mario Party, Smash, and hopefully Fire Emblem, among other 3rd parties like Dragon Ball Fighterz, Octopath, Crash, and maybe a few surprises, it should be able to hit that goal. 



Next week should be interesting. Curious to see if the Days of Play sale had an impact on these weekly figures.



Surprised Xbox has not been discontinued, really does not sell well.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Ljink96 said:
Interesting to see Switch hasn't slipped up yet, considering it hasn't gotten very decent games lately.
Well at the start of the year Switch would sell +200k weekly, but lately it's been doing around 170k a week. Still good of course, especially when it's about to get a large amount of games in June/July. However at this pace, Switch is going to need the last 5 months of the fiscal year to be killer for that 20m shipped target.

isn't the 20 million for the fiscal year, so it barely began and the games are coming soon. Super Mario Party, Pokemon and Smash are 3 huge games and from 3 different potential consumers. Also, there is no way Jan - March 2019 will be as bad as the one in 2018.



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switch only 700k units up yoy so far despite being released in march. so thats a about 1/3rd of the time period sale advantage

sales already tanking a bit.

 

its going to need a price drop this or next year



XB had a good E3 and has FH4 coming this year, but I'm curious to see whether XB numbers can hold and stabilize or not. I would have to imagine Gears 5 should land later 2019 hopefully with no delays, with Halo Infinite being a late 2020 launch title perhaps? Not sure how gamers are going to react to the Halo news though. It seemed like there was a lot of anticipation for Halo this year, if not 2019 at the latest, and it sure looks like it won't be until 2020 at the earliest, which would make sense if it's cross gen or a launch title.

While XB didn't say it during E3, in a way, they sort of implied that they know the gen is lost and so they are starting to focus and gear up for next gen. Some people might take that as simply smart tactics, others may see that as abandoning the existing platform in a way. If Gears 5 get's delayed, that'll probably put off quite a few people, especially if it's not long before next gen. Unless of course XB1X remains relevant next gen and Halo is cross gen.

Switch numbers are pretty impressive though. Besides it still being the newest and only mobile console platform, you would think it's lack of games should be showing signs of sales weakness, but that doesn't really seem to be that case.



xMetroid said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Well at the start of the year Switch would sell +200k weekly, but lately it's been doing around 170k a week. Still good of course, especially when it's about to get a large amount of games in June/July. However at this pace, Switch is going to need the last 5 months of the fiscal year to be killer for that 20m shipped target.

isn't the 20 million for the fiscal year, so it barely began and the games are coming soon. Super Mario Party, Pokemon and Smash are 3 huge games and from 3 different potential consumers. Also, there is no way Jan - March 2019 will be as bad as the one in 2018.

We're almost a quarter of the way into FY 2018. Not sure that's "barely began" territory.



At this point i think is almost sure that PS4 is overtracked.

PS4 is at 79.7 million according to VGChartz, just 300K for the 80 million milestone. And we all know Sony always annunce every 10 million PS4 hit. They annunced 10 million, 20 million, 30 million, 40, 50, 60, and 70, there is no way they miss the 80 million annunce as well.

I could understand if they delayed the annunce for the E3, kinda what they did with 60 million... but the E3 is over. If Sony did not annunce yet the 80 million for PS4, this only mean that it has not reached that milestone.

Of course i expect PS4 to be very close to it and imo, is a matter of days, but yeah... according to VGChartz PS4 reached 80 million before the E3, and that's almost for sure is not the case.



xMetroid said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Well at the start of the year Switch would sell +200k weekly, but lately it's been doing around 170k a week. Still good of course, especially when it's about to get a large amount of games in June/July. However at this pace, Switch is going to need the last 5 months of the fiscal year to be killer for that 20m shipped target.

isn't the 20 million for the fiscal year, so it barely began and the games are coming soon. Super Mario Party, Pokemon and Smash are 3 huge games and from 3 different potential consumers. Also, there is no way Jan - March 2019 will be as bad as the one in 2018.

I never said it would be as bad, infact I even pointed out how it was selling 200k/weekly through Jan-April this year which isn't bad at all. Mario Party hasn't been huge since the Wii/DS days, most certainly because it needed the unique audiences those systems attracted to reach such heights. Won't mind being wrong, but right now how I see it is that the Switch is gonna stay at this pace until November.

Mario Tennis/Octopath/etc. will keep the baseline steady or even raise it in June/July, but then it drops again in August/September. Mario Party and the beginning of the holiday season will pick it back up in October, but I'm betting Switch sales for the fiscal year at that point will be around 5-6m, so it'll need to sell 13-14m during the last 5 months (assuming 1m on store shelves). Difficult but possible.