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Azuren said:
I'm still not sure how they'll accomplish this unless they've finally made an emulator, but I'm resubbing for a year if it happens.

There are emulators being tinkered with on PC. Existing Ryzen APU testing. Might have to wait for PS5.



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setsunatenshi said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

I was operating under the assumption that they'd put it at a competitive price and give it a competitive library. 

100$ a year seems pretty competitive in my book, especially if we'd indeed talk about no input lag. the library is ever growing too, so it's only going to keep improving

That's just a promotion though and I'm not certain the service will actually get games I want to play.

I pay for Xbox Gamepass because its $10 a month and I get access to new games (Forza Horizon 4 in a few months). But month to month PS Now is $20 and just older stuff.

PS Now is not competitive, just a streaming option.



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Mr Puggsly said:
setsunatenshi said:

100$ a year seems pretty competitive in my book, especially if we'd indeed talk about no input lag. the library is ever growing too, so it's only going to keep improving

That's just a promotion though and I'm not certain the service will actually get games I want to play.

I pay for Xbox Gamepass because its $10 a month and I get access to new games (Forza Horizon 4 in a few months). But month to month PS Now is $20 and just older stuff.

PS Now is not competitive, just a streaming option.

that's fine and to each their own, but this 100$ promotion was pretty much valid every single time I looked for it, so yeah. 

 

and from the other hand how many decent new exclusives does MS really pull off to make those 10$ a month worth it? pretty much zero to my tastes. 

 

so different people will find different value in both services



Landale_Star said:
I still believe this is just a mistake, PS Now has been "offering" game downloads for ages, some games just appear in the download list after playing but produce an error message if selected. Downloading games seems to fracture the PS Now userbase, PS Now could not offer game downloads of PS3 games on PS4 or any games on PC.

PS Now is full of odd things like this, for example it closed service on PS3, Vita and other platforms last august but it actually still works on PS3 but only via certain PS Store links for specific games. I could almost believe that this download option is a relic from the time that only PS3 games were on there and this would have allowed downloads on PS3 only. Alpha Protocol is an old game from this era of PS Now.

I can't verify how commonly this option appears since it doesn't show up on the UK service and I don't fancy paying for a month of US service right now but since other people in the US don't see it in every game I have to wonder if shows up randomly (lots of things on PS Now seem to affect certain users but not others).

It could be that they've cracked PS3 emulation on PS5 and are planning this for then. As well as getting games like Alpha Protocol onto the PS Store since it is currently disk only (at least in the UK) I find this scenario hard to believe and it would still leave PC users with an inferior version of the service, which might be their goal I suppose to drive people to a PS console to subscribe, try out some games and then buy some games. I just can't see this being possible on PS4 though.

PS Now and Xbox Game Pass both need to introduce each other's features, streaming and downloads on the same service is better than one or the other since they both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Even given downloads I would mostly opt for streaming since my internet connection can handle it no problem and I prefer the speed of access and no storage requirements that streaming offers. Though for visual quality and people who can't stream games the downloads are a better option.

Xbox has downloads and is looking at streaming, I have to expect Sony is looking at downloads to compliment it's streaming options too but I don't think we'll see PS3 games downloading on a PS4/PC.

I think the FastStart stuff they announced at E3 will handle that problem.

Other than that yes, Xbox Game Pass should incorporate Streaming as an option. PS Now should incorporate downloads, as well.



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The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

I think it very well could be implemented for the PS5, I would also be interested in seeing how they cracked the emulation. It was only a matter of time and can also seeing Sony invest more on the server side to beef up streaming.



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setsunatenshi said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That's just a promotion though and I'm not certain the service will actually get games I want to play.

I pay for Xbox Gamepass because its $10 a month and I get access to new games (Forza Horizon 4 in a few months). But month to month PS Now is $20 and just older stuff.

PS Now is not competitive, just a streaming option.

that's fine and to each their own, but this 100$ promotion was pretty much valid every single time I looked for it, so yeah. 

and from the other hand how many decent new exclusives does MS really pull off to make those 10$ a month worth it? pretty much zero to my tastes. 

so different people will find different value in both services

Well the promotion will end for PS Now, so check again on prices when it does. And more importantly, the month to month option is too expensive.

Your personal taste is subjective. Objectively, new AAA games coming to Xbox  Game Pass will appeal to more people than a collection of PS3 games and some older PS4 games.

I see PS Now simply as an option, its not being designed for mass appeal and can't be with its dated selection of games. MS is going a different direction, they want Gamepass to be a popular service.



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There's little point in me starting another thread so add this to the OP and change the thread title:


A rumour recently did the rounds suggesting that Sony's PlayStation Now service, which is basically an on-demand games library that can be streamed, would be getting offline functionality. An industry source was able to confirm to Kotaku UK that downloads are coming to Playstation Now, and add some detail.

The functionality is due to roll out in late September this year, but will be limited to PlayStation 4 games (at least initially). Yes, that means the dream of playing Demon's Souls on PS4 remains just that.

The games you download will work in the same way that PlayStation Plus games do: that is, they'll work as long as you have an active PS Now subscription, and should be playable offline on your primary PS4. Much like other PlayStation content, the games can also be played on other accounts that share the same PS4.

I've asked Sony for official comment, and will update with any reply.

It seems strange that Sony omitted this news from the company's E3 conference, where it may have added pizzazz to a rather by-the-numbers show. But there we are: for those of us who maybe aren't on the best connections, PS Now will get a lot more attractive later this year. For those of us pining for Demon's Souls and complete PS3 emulation, now and forever, there are only tears.


http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/06/19/source-playstation-now-will-offer-downloads-later-this-year



 

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Mr Puggsly said:
setsunatenshi said:

that's fine and to each their own, but this 100$ promotion was pretty much valid every single time I looked for it, so yeah. 

and from the other hand how many decent new exclusives does MS really pull off to make those 10$ a month worth it? pretty much zero to my tastes. 

so different people will find different value in both services

Well the promotion will end for PS Now, so check again on prices when it does. And more importantly, the month to month option is too expensive.

Your personal taste is subjective. Objectively, new AAA games coming to Xbox  Game Pass will appeal to more people than a collection of PS3 games and some older PS4 games.

I see PS Now simply as an option, its not being designed for mass appeal and can't be with its dated selection of games. MS is going a different direction, they want Gamepass to be a popular service.

Agreed completely on the taste being subjective, that was exactly my original point.

But you can't say in the immediate following sentence that X games coming to Xbox will appeal to more people than a collection of PS3 + some PS4 games. If Xbox first party was really that appealing we wouldn't have the user base split we currently have.

Appeal to popularity is something that really doesn't stick when arguing for Xbox, at least not this generation.

I'll finish as I started though, different people will find each offer more or less worth the price and that's absolutely ok. Would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing :)



Mr Puggsly said:
setsunatenshi said:

100$ a year seems pretty competitive in my book, especially if we'd indeed talk about no input lag. the library is ever growing too, so it's only going to keep improving

That's just a promotion though and I'm not certain the service will actually get games I want to play.

I pay for Xbox Gamepass because its $10 a month and I get access to new games (Forza Horizon 4 in a few months). But month to month PS Now is $20 and just older stuff.

PS Now is not competitive, just a streaming option.

Well... I just paid for a year and its about 6 bucks a month. Having a blast right now. no need to download, pretty cool, and I get to play all the ratchet and clank games I did not :D and all the other games.
Of course its competitive it just depends what you want to play.

I could say the gamepass is not competitive because it does not have any PS exclusives. Your definition of competitive is just YOUR definition.



setsunatenshi said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well the promotion will end for PS Now, so check again on prices when it does. And more importantly, the month to month option is too expensive.

Your personal taste is subjective. Objectively, new AAA games coming to Xbox  Game Pass will appeal to more people than a collection of PS3 games and some older PS4 games.

I see PS Now simply as an option, its not being designed for mass appeal and can't be with its dated selection of games. MS is going a different direction, they want Gamepass to be a popular service.

Agreed completely on the taste being subjective, that was exactly my original point.

But you can't say in the immediate following sentence that X games coming to Xbox will appeal to more people than a collection of PS3 + some PS4 games. If Xbox first party was really that appealing we wouldn't have the user base split we currently have.

Appeal to popularity is something that really doesn't stick when arguing for Xbox, at least not this generation.

I'll finish as I started though, different people will find each offer more or less worth the price and that's absolutely ok. Would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing :)

Okay... let me explain what you got wrong.

PS4's success is not actually due to its exclusives. It was crushing X1 even when PS4 had mediocre exclusives. Sony launched a better designed console at a lower price, that's objective and helped PS4 excel at launch.

PS Now WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL if all it offers is old games at a regularly high subscription price.

A game like Forza Horizon 4 has the potential to sell several million on its own. But that game is going to be on Game Pass at launch, that will appeal to more people than a collection of old games alone.

Hence, if PS Now offered some 1st party games at launch the service would achieve great popularity. So if you don't get my argument its as simple as this, NEW GAMES GET MORE SUBSCRIBERS.

Look at Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime for example. They grew in success by launching new/original content on their services.That's essentially what Game Pass is doing and why its more relevant than PS Now.



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