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Megiddo said:
Yes, and my point is "those must have games" were not available in May last year for most of the people that wanted them. That's why software sales were only like ~700k. Then in June more software flows in and software sales go up to almost 2 million units.

No, your point was how exactly Switch will achieve those 100m with only Pokemon and Smash Bros. like there is no other software that will sell great also.



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pikashoe said:
quickrick said:

Not comparing to wiiu, comparing forecasts, nintendo was even way off with switch, last year, so not sure why people put so much stock in them. 

Discussing sales = nintendo hate boner? 

Going onto every single nintendo thread spouting negativity is. I've never heard you say a positive word about anything nintendo related. Your going to end up giving yourself a bad reputation.

this is false i hardly go into nintedo threads unless its about sales. 20 million is a ridiculously high number to achieve thinking it can't get there is not negative just having fun with predictions. 



quickrick said:
pikashoe said:

Going onto every single nintendo thread spouting negativity is. I've never heard you say a positive word about anything nintendo related. Your going to end up giving yourself a bad reputation.

this is false i hardly go into nintedo threads unless its about sales. 20 million is a ridiculously high number to achieve thinking it can't get there is not negative just having fun with predictions. 

It's kind of odd that you seem to only talk about a console, company and games you don't like. I've never seen you talk about anything but nintendo and I've never heard you say a single positive thing about nintendo. Again you are just going to give yourself a bad reputation. 

Anyway I don't want to make a big thing out of this. Just thought I'd point it out. 

Ps. I actually agree that the 20 million figure will be a bit out of reach.



pikashoe said:
quickrick said:

this is false i hardly go into nintedo threads unless its about sales. 20 million is a ridiculously high number to achieve thinking it can't get there is not negative just having fun with predictions. 

It's kind of odd that you seem to only talk about a console, company and games you don't like. I've never seen you talk about anything but nintendo and I've never heard you say a single positive thing about nintendo. Again you are just going to give yourself a bad reputation. 

Anyway I don't want to make a big thing out of this. Just thought I'd point it out. 

Ps. I actually agree that the 20 million figure will be a bit out of reach.

umm because the hyperbole is ridiculous, all i been hearing since last year is switch will destroy everything during the holidays with mario, holidays come, and switch gets out sold by both consoles. Then In 2018  switch will win almost every NPD, switch only wins one so far, and now the hyperbole smash and pokemon are the second coming, yet when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year, same with smash, on wiiu, and 3ds.



quickrick said:
pikashoe said:

It's kind of odd that you seem to only talk about a console, company and games you don't like. I've never seen you talk about anything but nintendo and I've never heard you say a single positive thing about nintendo. Again you are just going to give yourself a bad reputation. 

Anyway I don't want to make a big thing out of this. Just thought I'd point it out. 

Ps. I actually agree that the 20 million figure will be a bit out of reach.

umm because the hyperbole is ridiculous, all i been hearing since last year is switch will destroy everything during the holidays with mario, holidays come, and switch gets out sold by both consoles. Then In 2018  switch will win almost every NPD, switch only wins one so far, and now the hyperbole smash and pokemon are the second coming, yet when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year, same with smash, on wiiu, and 3ds.

This happens with every new consoles. People were claiming the ps4 will be the greatest selling console ever. Others said the vita was going to destroy the 3ds.

The thing is most people on this website don't even think the switch is going to outsell the ps4 overall. You are just projecting what you want onto other people a lot of the time. 



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pikashoe said:
quickrick said:

umm because the hyperbole is ridiculous, all i been hearing since last year is switch will destroy everything during the holidays with mario, holidays come, and switch gets out sold by both consoles. Then In 2018  switch will win almost every NPD, switch only wins one so far, and now the hyperbole smash and pokemon are the second coming, yet when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year, same with smash, on wiiu, and 3ds.

This happens with every new consoles. People were claiming the ps4 will be the greatest selling console ever. Others said the vita was going to destroy the 3ds.

The thing is most people on this website don't even think the switch is going to outsell the ps4 overall. You are just projecting what you want onto other people a lot of the time. 

It's kinda funny that you complain about hyperbole, when you are saying all encompassing statements like everyone is saying the switch will be the best selling thing ever. 

Edit: oops meant to edit instead of reply.



quickrick said:
pikashoe said:

It's kind of odd that you seem to only talk about a console, company and games you don't like. I've never seen you talk about anything but nintendo and I've never heard you say a single positive thing about nintendo. Again you are just going to give yourself a bad reputation. 

Anyway I don't want to make a big thing out of this. Just thought I'd point it out. 

Ps. I actually agree that the 20 million figure will be a bit out of reach.

umm because the hyperbole is ridiculous, all i been hearing since last year is switch will destroy everything during the holidays with mario, holidays come, and switch gets out sold by both consoles. Then In 2018  switch will win almost every NPD, switch only wins one so far, and now the hyperbole smash and pokemon are the second coming, yet when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year, same with smash, on wiiu, and 3ds.


"when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year."

Probably because X/Y came out in the second week of October, not  in the holiday season, especially not the week before Black Friday, like Let's Go P/E is releasing. So while November and December 2013 were down, October was a bloodbath in 2013's favor. In that 13 week period for both years, from the release of Pokemon X/Y to the last week of the year the 3DS did these numbers:
2012 (No Pokemon): 6,690,446
2013 (Pokemon X/Y, and the 3DS' peak year): 7,309,001
If X/Y had been released in November, or even the last week of October, it absolutely would have sold better than the year before. From the first week of November to the last week of the year, 2012 did 6.08 million, 2013 did 6.03 million. By then, the X/Y had been out for a little over 3 weeks and it had worn off a bit. But if you want to include October, ya know, the actual month when it released, it's no contest. The last 3 months of 2013 killed the last 3 months of 2012.
Plus, there's also the fact that Pokemon GO in July 2016 led to the 3DS beating the PS4 and Xbox One in the July NPD, and that combined with Pokemon Sun/Moon led to the 3DS being up YoY in 2016 to 2015, despite the system beginning showing its age at the time.

"same with smash on wii u, and 3ds"
3DS, sure.
Wii U, no. During the 10 week period from the first week of November to the end of year, 2013 Wii U did 1.675 million, while 2014 Wii U, which had Smash Bros., did 1.721 million. And that was with the 3DS version already being out for nearly 2 months. Smash 4 being on two systems took away from the system selling potential of the game. Because you if you could have easily made the case of, "If I have it on 3DS, why do I need it for Wii U?" And vice versa. I guarantee you if Smash 4 had been exclusive to either system, that system's sales from release to the rest of the year would have been significantly better.

Pokemon and Smash are 2 of the biggest system sellers they have. And they're releasing within 3 weeks of each other, right in the middle of the holiday season. You're damn right they're going to do very big numbers.

And you've got some nerve calling out people on hyperbole, Mr. "Fall Off A Cliff."



PAOerfulone said:
quickrick said:

umm because the hyperbole is ridiculous, all i been hearing since last year is switch will destroy everything during the holidays with mario, holidays come, and switch gets out sold by both consoles. Then In 2018  switch will win almost every NPD, switch only wins one so far, and now the hyperbole smash and pokemon are the second coming, yet when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year, same with smash, on wiiu, and 3ds.


"when the pokemon came to 3ds in 2013 holiday sales were weaker then the previous year."

Probably because X/Y came out in the second week of October, not  in the holiday season, especially not the week before Black Friday, like Let's Go P/E is releasing. So while November and December 2013 were down, October was a bloodbath in 2013's favor. In that 13 week period for both years, from the release of Pokemon X/Y to the last week of the year the 3DS did these numbers:
2012 (No Pokemon): 6,690,446
2013 (Pokemon X/Y, and the 3DS' peak year): 7,309,001
If X/Y had been released in November, or even the last week of October, it absolutely would have sold better than the year before. From the first week of November to the last week of the year, 2012 did 6.08 million, 2013 did 6.03 million. By then, the X/Y had been out for a little over 3 weeks and it had worn off a bit. But if you want to include October, ya know, the actual month when it released, it's no contest. The last 3 months of 2013 killed the last 3 months of 2012.
Plus, there's also the fact that Pokemon GO in July 2016 led to the 3DS beating the PS4 and Xbox One in the July NPD, and that combined with Pokemon Sun/Moon led to the 3DS being up YoY in 2016 to 2015, despite the system beginning showing its age at the time.

"same with smash on wii u, and 3ds"
3DS, sure.
Wii U, no. During the 10 week period from the first week of November to the end of year, 2013 Wii U did 1.675 million, while 2014 Wii U, which had Smash Bros., did 1.721 million. And that was with the 3DS version already being out for nearly 2 months. Smash 4 being on two systems took away from the system selling potential of the game. Because you if you could have easily made the case of, "If I have it on 3DS, why do I need it for Wii U?" And vice versa. I guarantee you if Smash 4 had been exclusive to either system, that system's sales from release to the rest of the year would have been significantly better.

Pokemon and Smash are 2 of the biggest system sellers they have. And they're releasing within 3 weeks of each other, right in the middle of the holiday season. You're damn right they're going to do very big numbers.

And you've got some nerve calling out people on hyperbole, Mr. "Fall Off A Cliff."

So what if we include oct-dec 2013 3ds beat 2012 by like what 200k, it's not like it the second coming people are making to be, and lets remember 3ds was 179.99$ so parents, and pokeman fans it was a very little investment money wise. At this point  mario odyssey is bigger then smash, when smash releases and if does beat mario odyssey then we can talk about it that, i bet it won't, plus its releasing very late into the holidays that will hurt it. I'm not gonna keep repeating myself but 2017 line up looks much much better then 2018, you had 2 massive franchises being labeled best game ever by the media, and scoring 97, then you had mario kart 8 delux which probably do 20 million, and splatoon 2, switch was also the new hotness, and stock issues till sept- october. looking forward to the holidays, will happily eat crow. 



I was going to make a prediction thread a couple of months ago about No Switch won't ship 20 million during the year, I can't really do it now though since its near dead certain



pikashoe said:
quickrick said:

Not comparing to wiiu, comparing forecasts, nintendo was even way off with switch, last year, so not sure why people put so much stock in them. 

Discussing sales = nintendo hate boner? 

Going onto every single nintendo thread spouting negativity is. I've never heard you say a positive word about anything nintendo related. Your going to end up giving yourself a bad reputation.

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